For example, over near Deming, New Mexico is the Gila National Forest. The U.S. Forest Service wanted to make almost all of it off limits for people — until the militia of Luna County intervened. They told the feds that they would resist any effort by the Forest Service to restrict access to visitors. The result? Visitors have continued to access all of the Gila National Forest!
In the Southeast corner of the state, many landowners have working oil wells on their property. The EPA told the oil operators they would have to stop operating their wells because there was too much risk of harming the environment. At a town hall meeting convened by the EPA, a woman in her 60s rose to address the feds. She pointed out that her land had been in her family for over 200 years, and she was not about to let some official from an unconstitutional bureaucracy tell her what she could or could not do with her land. The woman ended by warning the feds that her family has many guns and a huge supply of ammunition, and they would use all of it if needed to keep the EPA off of their land. The locals who had packed out the hearing room jumped to their feet with a shout and prolonged applause. That was in August of this year. As of November, oil is still being pumped at full tilt.
In Otero County, villages in the mountains are surrounded by forests. The county commission voted to establish an 80,000 acre plan to manage forest overgrowth. Residents wanted to cut fire breaks to protect their homes in Cloudcroft, but the Forest Service said, “No.” The residents responded that they had to for safety’s sake and were going to construct the fire break in spite of the Forest Service. Residents were told that if they cut down any trees, they would be arrested. But Sheriff Raymond Cobos told the Forest Service that if they made any arrests, they would be arrested for false arrest. Not only were the trees cut down with no opposition from the feds, the first tree was cut down by Congressman Steve Pearce (R-2ndDistrict). Would that there were many more like Rep. Pearce. The folks in the Second District are blessed with a constitution-supporting congressman and a number of constitutional sheriffs backed by the militias of their counties.
This is the way that local governments can push back and help the feds to live within the limitations that have been placed upon them in Article 1, Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution. As you can see, there’s a lot happening in New Mexico. And Dr. Seidel has been at the center of a lot of it. Two weeks after the people of Ruidoso prevailed in the gun ban debate, Mayor Alborn decided to seek revenge. He went to the state capital of Santa Fe and met with federal officials there. That same week, Seidel got a notice from the IRS that he had until a certain date to file his taxes, which he has refused to do for several years. Seidel makes no secret of his refusal to submit to the IRS which he considers as part of an unconstitutional regime in Washington. The IRS intended to encumber his assets if he did not bend his knee. Seidel visited with the county sheriff who understood what Seidel was trying to do and told him he “would have his back.”

The same was true for the village police chief – the same officer who refused to have his men arrest people who were defying the Ruidoso gun ban by carrying openly in the village council chambers. Not only was the sheriff and police chief alerted to the possibility of IRS action against Seidel, but so was the militia in Lincoln County – some 200 plus men who keep their rifle and battle bag in their vehicles 24/7. They can muster in about 30 minutes at any place in the county. Seidel visited with the village assessor, who would be the official to place the encumbrances on his assets. Seidel explained (as he does with everyone) that Title 42, Chapter 1, Subchapter 1, Section 1983 of the federal code would be used to sue her personally for violating his civil rights — that is, he would sue her if any of his assets were encumbered without having first secured a warrant from an Article III court. Seidel has frequently argued that he will gladly submit to a federal court (authorized under Article III of the U.S. Constitution) as opposed to a mere tax court (which is an unconstitutional creature within the IRS). As with many administrative agencies, the combining of legislative, executive and judicial powers within the same four walls constitutes the very definition of tyranny which James Madison warned us about in Federalist 47.
Seidel has used Title 42 on other occasions. One involved a state trooper with an anger management problem who made a false arrest on Seidel’s son. Since being served with a Title 42 suit, the officer has been able to control his anger. The deadline is long past, and the IRS has done nothing, so the assessor is off the hook for now.
But New Mexico is becoming a text book example of how the Founding Fathers envisioned the states would rein in an out-of-control government. As stated by Alexander Hamilton in Federalist 28: “It may safely be received as an axiom in our political system that the State governments will, in all possible contingencies, afford complete security against invasions of the public liberty by the national authority.” If there were more sheriffs like those in New Mexico serving around the country, we would be well on the way to safeguarding our liberties against Washington’s “invasions of the public liberty.” It also might occur to the Congress that more examples of sheriffs interposing themselves might result in shrinking down the federal government to do little more than just funding the national defense.

Letter to the Editor. More Gun Laws.

How Much is a Life Worth? When will a Politician represent the defenceless?

15,000 licensed shooters in the Gympie Region will be waiting to see how David Gibson MP voted on the latest Amendment to the Weapons Act, that are before the Queensland house of Representatives. Will he go and sit with Independents, Mrs Cunningham, Dorothy Pratt, Chris Foley, Mr McLindon, who have stated they will vote against, or will he stay and support the passage of the Bill into an Act with his LNP party?

^{On the 8th Sept 2011, in his speech to the house, Hansard report Mr Gibson as saying. “The LNP has a strong record of supporting law-abiding gun owners such as farmers and sporting shooters.”}

This has cast a doubts on Mr Gibson’s memory, as we all can remember is in 1997, the National Party/ Liberals imposing the John Howard Un -informed Gun Laws. They have also supported every subsequent prohibitive amendment, screwing the law abiding firearm owners ever since. Shooters, are amazed that Mr Gibson has forgotten that it was the reason for the split in the National Party and the reason they have been in opposition ever since.

Mr Gibson has also confused those law abiding shooters with statements, such as these. “We have long opposed the wasteful and inefficient systems introduced by this government, such as the weapons licensing management system that has seen a cost blow-out of $7.5 million so far and, more importantly, a blow-out in the time it takes to obtain a permit to acquire. We must stop targeting law-abiding gun owners and, instead, focus our resources on real criminals.” “Let us be clear: this bill does little to address criminal activities involving firearms and is nothing more than Labor targeting law-abiding gun owners”.

Licensed shooters salute statement such as these and so would the majority of Gympie’s voters, however in the same speech he states.

“I will be opposing those parts of the bill that do nothing more than target law-abiding gun owners. The remainder of the bill brings about some clarifications in the act that should be supported”.

When this Bill, in all of its provisions, collectively punishes the innocent. Removes lawfully owned licensed, registered property, without compensation. To vote for that, is endorsing government theft, its immoral. What is worse, as they continue to refuse to police criminal activity, they further perpetuate the immoral punitive penalising of the innocent by mis-application of legislation, a trend that both major parties have propergated for over twenty years. Some of Mr Gibson’s electorate have been waiting for four months for a licence to be issued and eleven months for a Permit To Acquire. Mr Gibson has to stop, sitting on the fence. He has admitted that he knows that this Bill is a wrongly imposed crime on law abiding gun owners. So should he support the people who he represents in his constituency and not support this Bill, or support the Bill with the rest of his Party. It is time for David Gibson to show where his allegiance really lies, to his people, or his party. We will be watching Hansard very closely.

Ron Owen

24 Mc Mahon Rd

100 shots ARE They Taking DAISY next? It's just as Stupid.

Correspondence on the Weapon Amendment Bill of 2011. TELL YOUR LOCAL MP TO STOP IT NOW.

GREAT LETTER /EMAIL TO HIS MP.
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 7:34 PM, M W  MW@altcs.com.au> wrote:
To the Hon. Ray Hopper
Member for Condamine
I wish to express my disgust at the LNP’s decision to support the Queensland Labor Government Weapons Amendment Bill.
As a family who were previously long time National Party supporters (who withdrew this support after the Howard firearm fiasco) and who were contemplating a return to supporting the LNP in order to out the present socialist Queensland and Australian governments, we feel this is once again a betrayal of our trust in the LNP, for Queensland and in the longer term, Australia.
In my immediate family there are 5 active members of the Sporting Shooters Association of Australia who share the same opinion.
Obviously the LNP have enjoyed their time in oposition and wish to spend the next 20years in the wilderness.
from a betrayed Queenslander

MW

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Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 8:24 PM
Subject: Re: Weapons Amendment Bill 2011
Great letter mate. It will fall on deaf ears. The LNP are a lost cause just like their socialist mates in Labor. My member for Beaudesert is Aiden McLindon and he will be voting against the amendments. Jeannie and I went to a meeting in Boonah last night at the invitation of Katters Australia Party. Both Aiden and Bob Katter spoke for nearly two hours. There are things that you would not believe that are going on in this state.
Qld. is broke. Labor has ruined this once prosperous state. We are paying $55 million per week in interest alone on borrowings that Labor has inflicted upon us. The selling of the state assets is a joke. A large port facility was sold to Indian interests for just over 1 billion dollars. It earns about $900 million per year. The new owners have a lease on it for 99 years. Nice little earner if you can get it … and that’s just one of the many facilities sold off.
CSG is a joke. The gas is piped to the foreign owned ports, loaded onto foreign owned ships and shipped to China. The Chinese write a cheque to the CSG companies here and the payment is then returned to China where the owners of the CSG company live. There are no Australian mining companies left in this country.
We are officially net importers of food in this country. A country that once supplied food to the rest of the world, now has to rely on imports. The Liberal and Labor Parties have XXXXX us over a number of years.
There is only one option left for us and that is the elimination of the Labor and LNP from the political scene. Spread the message to everyone you know. Tell them to vote for Katters Party, we have no other option left.
T

Politics is a Dirty Business at Times.

Thanks for the visit yesterday, and the interesting conversation. This just some thoughts that came from the meeting. Sorry its long and there is no pictures.

Guns Like this 1866 Rifle Banned

Landbroek and any other in your party should be reminded of why they have been in opposition for 14 years. It appears that Landbroek is going to keep you in opposition.

Apparently, he has a secure seat. We have to ask ,why he listens to Dr Paul Wilson? Who writes articles in Penthouse, with perverted credibility like that something is wrong. Wilson is pro anything goes, legalise drugs, free sex trips to Bali and wrote the completely wrong false malicious article ‘Hell Town’ for Penthouse.

The only reason we have long arm registration in Queensland to-day is because of a politicians involvement with these sort of people. The history was, that via Commonwealth Att Generals Department, Daryle Smeaton, who obtained it from Queensland Police Commissioner. (Jim O Sullivan who had the dirt bag on everybody)

John Howard put the photo of Russell Cooper existing Brett Boys (Gay Night Club in Spring Hill, opposite the bunker, Brisbane) on the desk in front of Cooper. He immediately aged another 20 years, that plus the affair with his driver made, Russell betray his party.

(I personally know the man who went to Canberra with him, to see John Howard.)

Port Arthur was never the real reason, that photo on the desk decimated the Nationals as a party and at the polls. Landbroek might remember the The Honourable Neil J.Turner, Speaker of the Queensland Parliament ex National Party member of Nambour, speech. http://www.owenguns.com/important-firearm-information/remarks-by-the-honourable-neil-jturner-speaker-of-the-queensland-parliament/

Up until his death, in July this year he openly admitted that the firearm owners of Queensland abhorrence of the National Party betrayal was the reason for the break down of the largest political party in Australia.

There betrayal, besides many other wrongs in the legislation, imposed the registration of long arms on Queenslanders, decimated the Nationals and ensured their 14 years in the political wilderness.

Your still there in that decimated state, and even with Labour’s enormous debacle, due to clever politics by Labour and the un principled speech and actions of Landbroek, your going to stay there. How well does he know Dr Paul Wilson? Has anyone got photographs on John -Paul?

The game Labour is playing with the Amendment Weapons Act before the House is a master stroke and the timing of it is perfect for them. The will not care, either way if its passed or not, they could bulldoze it through if they wanted, but it is the death of a thousand cuts for the LNP. It builds Katters Party by default which will split the right and leave them with a majority. Any of the votes that do not go to Katter Party will go to independents and justifiable so, as your party has the choice. Labour, well knows that the 300,000 shooting voters, when they realise that they have lost again and are handing over their lever and pump actions for destruction, they will be seething on the betrayal of LNP , it will not affect Labour, they know they would never get their votes anyway.

Your best opportunity, is to stand as an independent at the next election, (then I will be able to vote for you), and refuse to vote for any of these Amendments. You know, that they are only presented for the wrong reasons. To trap you.

You have already admitted that there is no benefit for the people of Queensland within this legislation and as yet you have not counted, what it will cost the people of Queensland. You know that the registration of firearms does not work and will continue to fall into a greater money hole. Registering knives as Catagory M, permits to acquire, for Stanley knives, and box knives, its stupidity.

The NLP only chance to regain credibility, as something different than Labour, is to oppose these Amendments and offer to scrap the Long Arm Registry, if elected into Government. That will take all the wind out of the sails of Katters Party as he is not offering anything yet and the first one in to do that, will be the only credible one that people will believe.

Katter is gathering financial and people support from Sporting Shooters Shooter’s Union and other shooting groups. Labour is assisting them, by presenting these Amendments.

With this one announcement, LNP gains unity of the right wing, shooters will be their at the booths handing out the how to vote cards as they did for 30 years, there will be a real opposition in Queensland.

Many of the LNP falsely believe that the shooters are rural voters and that this will go against them in city seats. They are so wrong, besides Landbroek own figures of a 36% increase in Shooters Licence applications at the Gold Coast, have a look at where the biggest guns shops are? Have a look at where all the biggest clubs are? They may leave town to shoot at St George but the greatest percentage of the hundreds of thousands of shooting voter are in those marginal electorates that LNP needs to capture.

Those Gun shop Dealers who have to employ full time staff to do their part of the Long Arm Registration could be hubs for LNP, the lawyers, bankers and doctors who shoot live in those electorates, not Gympie, or Kingaroy. The shooters who have to spend $30. every time they change a firearm, and wait seven months for the paper chase will immediately be your supporters.

Not to do this, means that your party is giving all those resources to Katter.

Those shooters all, worked well for the National Party, up to 1996 now there are a lot more of them and now your party is turning them away.

Once I was a member of the national party, I do not agree with the principle of Party politics but I am already assisting Katters Party with handouts and will continue to support them until LNP sees the light and has a religious conversion back to its original principles, that the wrong doer pays, that you do not punish the law abiding, because the police are to lazy or inept to prosecute the crime.

Until that is addressed, the wrong doers will grow and persist and the banning and registration will not save a life, not solve a crime, nor prevent a crime. They are all impositions on the good people which turns government into oppressors and criminals

If the LNP cannot distinguish itself from Labour by having the courage to act on the general principle of individuals are punished for a crime, not punishing the collective innocent whose only fault is to lawfully own property, or have an occupation or interest that is seen to be politically incorrect, then it is finished, and the more you tie your life to it entrails, like Neil Turner it will be the end of your political career.

I find you, a man with a strong sense of principle, of right and wrong and believe, that you believe that your working for the good of the people of Queensland and your electorate. You are now stating that your sitting on the fence, voting against the specific clauses, hoping that Labour will remove the ones that you object to so you can support the Bill. Labour will not do that as it suits them to split the LNP . The longer you compromise yourself the harder it will be for you to walk back and stand on your personal good principles.

If Landbroek will not give way, and the Party still wants to go down the same road into political oblivion, let them go. Stand as an independent, keep your integrity you will have an increased majority in Gympie. The LNP will never get anywhere, trying to be a middle of the road Labour party. Something better will come along to fill the void. Something might, arise like a phoenix after Katter party fails, which it will, as it has no real philosophical foundation. They are just offering all the feel good, sounds good solutions. So it may be the right time to take a step back. If you change your mind, on the ‘fence sitting’ please let me know ASAP, as I will be sending out another mail out on Monday.

All the best

Ron Owen

Find below some notes that might help.

Chris Foley, Shane Knuth and yourself have asked questions after questions and the government cannot justify its registration, or even tell you how many registered hand guns they have. They obviously do not have any idea how many licensed shooters they have, as Inspector Mc Coomb OIC weapons Branch in 1998 said they had 120,000. Licensed shooters, Landbroek is talking about figures of 16 to 19 % per year increase, so 155,000 cannot be substantiated. In the old Licence for life, shooters licence Russell Cooper (the Creep) announced that there was million licences issued.

You mentioned the Canadian Registry, Some one in Canada worked out that they had spent 2 Billion dollars on it and it was not working. (like ours) (We would have spent more than that.)

So in 2006 when they had a change of government, they announced it was to be scrapped, they announced an amnesty on fees and the 8 million long arms that still had not been registered. The 2 nd reading Bill was passed in 2009, and failed by a few voted in 2010 but Harper has now a full majority the amnesty has been extended until it goes through parliament again. When you think that the commonwealth spent 500 million the first year, (I think most of it went to Nioa’s) then what each state has spent and all the Police hours, Plus the Firearms owners $30, fee they are burnt up, and then the cost of the work the Dealers have to do, 40 hours a week paperwork.

For info on Canada

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/notice-avis/fee-frais-eng.htm

Canadian Firearms Program

For more information…

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/index-eng.htm

16 MAY 2011

The Government of Canada has announced the fees for most firearms licence renewals or upgrades have been waived until May 16, 2012, extending the existing waiver for one more year.

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/online_en-ligne/reg_enr-eng.htm

The Government has announced its intention to simplify licence requirements for firearm owners and to remove the requirement to register non-restricted firearms. However, any changes to the Firearms Act must go through a legislative process and pass in Parliament.

The full story seems to be on this page.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canadavotes2011/story/2011/04/04/cv-election-harper-gun.html

Conservative Leader Stephen Harper is again promising to eliminate Canada’s long-gun registry.

“When it comes to the wasteful and inefficient long-gun registry, you know where the Conservative party stands. We stand with farmers and hunters and we will scrap the long-gun registry,” Harper told a group in Welland, Ont., Monday.

The Conservative Party has promised before to get rid of the registry, but hasn’t yet introduced government legislation — supported by cabinet — to do so.

Last year, a bill introduced by Conservative backbencher Candace Hoeppner came close to passing, but failed on its last vote.

Some NDP and Liberal MPs, including Welland MP Malcolm Allen, voted against Hoeppner’s bill, “even though they had promised their constituents they would scrap the registry,” Harper said.

Six NDP MPs from rural ridings joined the majority of NDP and Liberal MPs to vote to put an end to Hoeppner’s legislation last September. Allen won the riding by a narrow margin in 2008.

A Conservative government would also introduce a new hunting and wildlife advisory panel, Harper said, to bring “common sense” to crime and gun issues.

“We have to make this common sense more common in Ottawa,” he added.

People in rural Canada aren’t opposed to gun control, he said, with a hand gun registry and licensing rules drawing little opposition.?

“What people don’t accept is going out and registering millions and millions and millions of long-guns where you already have all this other information. It’s wasteful, ineffective, and it has treated rural people, farmers and hunters as if they are criminals at the same time by governments who will do absolutely nothing about gun crime,” Harper said.

15 Shot Colt Lightnings designed in the 1880s will be handed in for No compensation.

Dear David
Your speech is a good speech, far better than the usual verbal diarrhoea that is blurted out to the empty chambers in Australian parliaments of the 21st Century.
You have raised relevant questions which noting your comments “opposing those parts of the bill that do nothing more than target law-abiding gun owners.” means that you will be voting against it as your questions are too embarrassing for them to give meaningful and honest answers.

Though to make it an excellent speech instead of just good, you would have to take more issue on the “philosophical differences” that you mention, as morals are not just rhetoric, things are either right or wrong. They are ‘Just’ right and morally fair, or not.

Your questions raise issues, asking why the increase, of the already established mechanism that purposefully targets the law abiding, ignores the larger social problem that the government is the modern criminal, as it steals and extorts Licence fees, renewals, registration fees. It does not just feeds like a parasitical leech, licensing property, taking the money, but then it produces legislation to steal that property that the shooter has paid to register, paid to licence, forced to join a club. Hand it over for no compensation.

I am including a photo of a Model 1892 Winchester, gold inlay and high grade walnut which as it has 14 shots will be banned. The technology of a 15 shot under barrel magazine dates back to 1866. So what was legal in the 19th Century in Australia will be illegal in the 21st Century.

Rifles with technology from a 150 years ago are to be banned like this Model 1892 Winchester comemerative

The question you have not asked is the $64,000. dollar question of where the line is drawn in the sand. Is it moral and just to collectively punish all the owners of property, lasers knives firearms, who have done no wrong, whilst ignoring the individuals who have caused the problem and by home manufacture could still cause the problem.

For example banning the legally owned property of thousands of people who use Laser’s in their work for surveying, mining, ( we have sold many to vehicle operators who set them up to ensure that they cut a straight drive underground) licensed pest eradication and many more legitimate uses that lasers are applied to and not legislating to address the actually issue of the individuals who misuse the instruments on the ground. Is the real problem that our Queensland Police do not wish to apprehend the culprits, or are incapable of apprehending the culprits and lazily feel that they want the legislators to do their job for them.

For Example,

Hypothetically, if an individual took the safety cladding off a microwave oven, directing the beam to the conning tower at airport and shut down the electronic safety systems, would we ban all microwave ovens from every householder?  No, parliament dare not upset to many people so quickly, they would in that instance legislate to punish the actual misuse of the micro wave.
So why are firearms, lasers and knives treated differently, well parliament presume that they can get way with this sort of ‘punish the innocent; legislation as not all the shooters have the same equipment so the legislators, the police, can reduce the shooting fraternity piecemeal.

At present our elected representatives, vote for legislation well knowing, that police and Magistrates Courts will misuse it provisions within it, to punish the innocent, these are the actions of a despotic regime, and good people should have no part, in upholding this misuse of law.
Once the wrong and injustice of ‘punishing the innocent’ legislation is recognised then all similar legislation should be viewed as what it is, in truth, ‘reprehensible’.

History shows that bans on drugs, guns, fireworks, alcohol have never worked, parliament loses credibility every time it attempts to legislate another social engineering disaster. Another collective punishment of owners forcing compliance, forcing them to hand over their property, with the threat of a conviction against them, the loss of careers, jobs, all their shooting licences, the loss of all their property and sporting guns. Senior citizens of our area have taken the decision to permanently check out, when faced with the registration alternative, well knowing that confiscation follows registration. They are gone now but have been proven right in their advice.

For many years governments have known that blanket bans or reductions in firearms numbers do not reduce crimes or suicides. Suicides statistics, have proved that the tools used for the deed make no difference to the amount of suicides, or the success rate. During the early 1970s Britain had a large percentage of suicides due to poisoning from people putting their head in the gas oven and not lighting it. On the introduction of non lethal Natural Gas, during a one year period, deaths from gassings ceased to exist, but the suicide rate took its normal increase. (I have the relevant data for this if needed)

Legislators, also have had the benefit of the real figures, the parliamentary library is at their disposal so they do not have to rely on the Anti Gun academics, self interested theories, manufactured for the next government grant, which always ignore the creation of the new crime of home invasion. Home invasion was unknown before the 1997 un informed gun laws, it was either burglary, whilst the home owners were absent, now since people have been disarmed the bad guys break in and help themselves as there is no deterrent. A recent figure for Australia was over 140,000 crimes per year. The anti gun academics use the imaginary figures of the 1997 Gun Buy back claiming that the 700,000 guns collected is the reason for a decline in firearm homicide. Besides, the fact that homicide with firearms began declining in 1990 (see AIC) the figure of 700,000 figure is very dubious, the computer used by the Queensland Buy Back were auctioned, purchased, hard drives resurrected and the information resides in a Gympie location. Queensland the largest shooting state only accepted 70,000 and Victoria as restrictions were already in place only handled less than 204 centre fire semi autos rifles so the figure of 700,000 is quite fictitious. Anyway, even at 700.000, we have far more firearms in use in Australia now than in 1997, as since then our medium sized business has transacted over 50,000 firearms in last 14 years, we have a figure of 1500 approx dealers in Australia. We are not the biggest, by any means so take that as an average. That 75,000,000 transacted in the last 14 years throughout Australia. This figure does not include the illegal amount transacted during this period. Just call 10 % of these guns as being new guns, (which could be 50% ) that is $7.5 million new guns into Australia. These figures are the reason why Queensland Weapons Licencing cannot cope with the paper work and New South Wales parliament if currently legislating to remove Air Rifles from there registration system. Say that this hypothetical figuring is similar to the Alpers and Chapman 700,000 and is wrong and the real figure is only 1.5 million or even if the growth is only 750,000. That means that more guns in the community means less murders. All figures can be manipulated so becomes down to what we personally believe, what we know, what is right from wrong.

Another huge moral wrong is that our legislators are committing another crime against the people by wasting police time, taxation contributions, and human endeavour in production line of legislation, ever increasing, next get the legislative axe will be the humble Lee Enfield No 1 Mk III rifle it will fall under their hammer as its capacity is 11 shots, ten in the magazine and one in the chamber, (living dangerously but they were made to operate that way) all the time the Government is ignoring the crime problem that continues to escalate, committed by individuals and should be prosecuted as individuals only then will it impacts on the individual criminal. While the legislators chase down the wrong problem the real problem keeps increasing, so then the legislators take another bite out of peoples property rights and the problem still escalates, the general public still suffer in silence as the initial crime problem is not being addressed ever. This contributes to the breakdown in society as are repeated in the United Kingdom on a regular basis, and until this is addressed we can expect more of the same in Australia.

The third moral sin is in not compensating for that property.  Our family trust, and Owen Guns has suffered profusely under these authoritarian laws and due to experience believe that even if the government decide to include legislation to pay compensation, unpopular people like ourselves would miss out completely and they would break us in court on numerous appeals, as they have done in the past. Owen Guns has lost millions of dollars in firearms and parts.
If the government was serious about compensating people for detachable magazines over ten shots. They would not have three times refused to take 55,000  30 shot magazines that belong to the business. They want them for nothing, which is just planned government theft by legislation. If they were concerned that they could fall into the wrong hands and that would be contrary to public safety, one would think they would be prepared to pay for that legally owned property. So while they don’t I at least know they are not genuine.
 They have taken 2000 new 9mm pistols, 11.5 million dollars worth of semi auto parts and not paid. How can we trust our government with anything? Its just extortion hand it in or lose everything licences business, property..  

Your point about detachable magazines should be explained by the government, but is for most shooters irrelevant, as the police legislators have covered it both ways with the use of the word ‘capacity’ as soon as that word is applied any firearm will be banned. Remington Pump Actions, Colt Lightnings, Timberwolfs, Rossi, Marlin, Winchester, Henry, Uberti, Taurus, If it has a 10 shot magazine and one in the chamber its 11 so that rifle and magazine is banned if you have a 5 shot magazine internal or external and a large one can be fitted the use of the word ‘capacity’ ensures it is banned.
The Labour government wants all shooters out of the way, completely and cannot cope with the increase in numbers of people coming into the sport and staggered by the resistance to there will. As the LNP as a group says, ‘it will support this Bill’, it will be the third time that the Liberal National Party has betrayed the shooters. Labour, has cleverly stooged your party again and so they will be in power for another 14 years.

 Mr LANGBROEK speech stating that LNP will not be opposing this Bill fills me with dismay, if I did not love Gympie, Australia and its people, (crossing politicians off the list) I would move to Argentina, or another South American county as they have a more straight forward and honest process of appointing their countries leaders. Revolution.

All the Best
Ron Owen

CONFISCATIONS AGAIN! YOUR SPORT IS AT RISK.

Rifles like these even a 100 years old will be handed in for no compensation.

If we do nothing, Queensland will make law in Mid October 2011 banning centre fire rifles which have a built in magazine capacity of over 10 shots, pump actions, lever actions anything that can take 11 shots,  will have to be handed in for NO compensation. That means Model 1866 (Henry) Winchester, Model 1873 Winchesters, Model 1892 Winchester’s 1873, likewise Browning, Marlin, Remington, Rossi, Puma, Colt Lighting, Chiappa, Uberti, Henry, Timberwolf, and  Remington Pumps, one in the chamber puts the rifles built in magazine capacity at 11and if you have done the right thing and registered that rifle you will have to hand it in for no compensation. There are many more sad, idiotic, sections of legislation in the Weapons Amendment Bill of 2011  WeaponsAmB11 which enpowers the government to misuse its power, by stealing lawfully owned property from law abiding citizens.

Have no doubt about it,we who have experienced the way that legislation is interpreted by courts and police know  that that the government is the largest criminal organisation in Australia. It steals property and destroys its opponents, that is criminal.

A Change In Government??  LIBERAL NATIONAL PARTY AS BAD AS LABOUR.
We have all hoped for change, we dream of a political group that will appear on a white charger and lead us to victory. We have hoped that Labour will lose the next election in Queensland. Currently that will make no difference as the ‘Shadow Minister for Police’ who if Labour loses, will be the next Police Minister John-Paul Mr LANGBROEK is an absolute anti gun moron.

In his speech on this proposed bill on the 8th September 2011  HANSARD 2011_09_08 Scroll down to Weapons Amendment Act, read for yourself here are some excepts,  he says’,
“the safety of Queenslanders is one of our top priorities”. (Yet he disarms us?)

“In the 15 years since these radical reforms were introduced, it is clear that there has been success in controlling gun use. There has not been another massacre like that which occurred at Port Arthur all those years ago.” ( he has forgotten that Queensland massacres are done with a box of matches as in Childers Palace Fire – In June 2000, Robert Long killed 15 people, and the Whiskey Au Go Go fire in 1973 which killed another 15 people. How is he going to keep Queenslanders safe from boxes of matches)  THE TRUTH ABOUT GUNS,CRIME AND VIOLENCE RESULTS OF THE ’96/’97 AUSTRALIAN GUN LAWS & “BUYBACK.
The Mr Langbroek, shadow minster for Police, continued with;
“the introduction of an approved safety training course as a prerequisite for registration. Key recommendations to address these issues include introducing online processing of licence applications and permits and introducing new fees for selected weapons transactions”
(He is clueless, he mixes up registration with licenses and does not know we have had a training course before licence for over ten years, and  fee’s for licences and permits have recently risen 126%)

“Members are now required to manually complete a form for a permit to acquire—or PTA—whereas with the old system it was computer generated. Delays in the issue of PTAs have extended to months, and a prerecorded telephone message was used by Weapons Licensing to advise callers that they should expect delays and not to call.” (He has the delay right but PTA applications have never been computer generated)

“In every state of Australia, the debate over gun control ignites considerable passion and it is important to dispel some myths. There has never been an unfettered right for Australians to possess firearms for any reason including self-defence.” (The Bill of Rights 1689,  does that it laid out certain basic rights for all Englishmen. These rights continue to apply today, not only in England and Wales, but in each of the jurisdictions of the Commonwealth realms as well.
“Disarming Protestants, &c.
By causing severall good Subjects being Protestants to be disarmed at the same time when Papists were both Armed and Employed contrary to Law.
Subjects’ Arms.
That the Subjects which are Protestants may have Arms for their Defence suitable to their Conditions and as allowed by Law. ” This was re-introduced and still stands in Queenslands laws under the Imperial Acts Applications Act of 1984. Mr LANGBROEK is totally unaware of the legislation that he is tampering with.)

 Langbroek continues “Even the United States Constitution, which is often misquoted by proponents of gun ownership, does not confer such a right. The second amendment to the US Constitution states— “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”
That is a very different proposition from the belief that every individual should have the right to possess whatever weapons they wish. ( Anyone who can read the English language can understand, “the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed”, is he an imbecile? He is only a Dentist but he should be able to understand simple words)

Langbroek continues “Even licensed, they serve no useful purpose in a civilised society. I acknowledge that there are those people who enjoy shooting exotic weapons either recreationally or competitively, and there are provisions in the legislation for them to do so. Their concerns about restrictions on owning and operating firearms have been heard.
I acknowledge that professional, recreational or competitive shooters who observe weapon control legislation do not necessarily pose a risk to the community at large, but that does not give them an automatic right to possess whatever weapons in whatever quantity they wish.”
(So this gives him the right to advocate the removal of our property, what arrogance.)

Langbroek continues “The respected criminologist Professor Paul Wilson was quoted in that Brisbane Times article Professor Wilson said the increase in gun ownership was ‘worrying’. He said— “The evidence is fairly clear; the more guns a community has, the more chances there are of crimes.”  (This is same Paul Wilson that wrote the incorrect ‘Hell Town’( about Gympie) article in Australian pornographic Penthouse magazine, he is a frequent contributor, he supports the Sex party, legalisation of drugs and opposes legislation of ‘Bikie’ Gangs, and Langbroek things he is ‘respected’)

Langbroek continues “I take this opportunity to thank the minister and his staff from the department for the briefing I received in relation to this bill.” (It shows who he takes notice of, who would vote for the LNP when they are just as rotten as the Labour Party taking their breif form the Police )
Langbroek continues; Particularly, these issues are covered by the first stage of the amendment process, which we will not be opposing.” (This bill is the first stage, they have another ready in the wings)

We must STOP this Bill.

This Bill is bad law, it doubles penalties for many offences such as not signing the range register at the club, and makes knives Category M so they have to be licensed and registered. Can you open them with one hand, such as a paper knife, or a Stanley knife or even a pair of scissors. The interpretation is up to the police and their courts.

Langbroek also states, “There are currently more 155,000 firearm licence holders in Queensland, 14,622 of whom are in the Gold Coast region. In a report from the Brisbane Times it was found that the number of new gun licences issued across Queensland increased 19 per cent, from 12,818 to 15,260.”

Which is rubish anyway as figures releases in 1998 put the licenced holders in Queensland at 120,000, and with the published increases of 19% or even 12,818 extra per year makes nonsense of either or all the figures he is producing. We do know that there has been massive increases as Safety Course Instructors have been reporting that over the last five years. We know that Weapons Licencing Branch cannot cope with the increases in Licence applications and Permits to Acquire so have pushed this legislation so to limit the amount of firearms on the registry and the remove as many shooters off their books as soon as possible.

This has to be Stopped.
If there are only licenced 155,000 shooters in Queensland, plus the unknown number of un licensed then with their wives and friends that puts a voting figure of at least 310,000. That is the largest voting group in this country. This number of votes can make or break ever parliament in Australia. The largest political party this nation has ever seen was the National Party in the 1980s with 60,000 members, since they betrayed the Firearm Owners in 1997 and again with the banning of handguns in 2003 that has dwindled so far that to remain in existence they have had to amalgamatewith the Liberals into the LNP. I told Russel Cooper in 1996 “if they implented the John Howard laws that the National Part M.Ps would travleing to parlaiment in a mini bus”.  Since then the National Party imploded and with Langbroek stance is now facing impending doom.

 We have to Act in a unified way.
Now knowing that the LNP are going to vote with Labour on this further Gun Ban,  Rather than allow our elected members of parliament to hide behind anonymity, we would like to force them to make their vote public and for that vote to be recorded in Hansard. At least we can then deal with those who vote for it at soon coming election. To this end the Shooters Union phoned Liz Cunningham, the independent member for Gladstone. (Remember this courageous woman? She stood alone and voted against the amendments to the Weapons Act in 1996 which resulted in registration, compulsory club membership, the requirement for fixed term licences, PTAs etc). They asked if she would call for a division, so that the names of each and every individual who votes for this Bill is recorded  ( Very useful at the coming election.) She said that she already planned to do so but to have the names of those voting against the bill recorded, there have to be five votes against. There are only five Independents and one of those Peter Wellington is a Labour party swinging voter anyway, so we need to let all of parliament know that shooters are a unified force and that we can act together. Earlier this year Labour withdrew its Weapons Amendment Bill due to receiving 2500 submissions opposing it, before the next debate on this Bill Tuesday 11th October, contact your local politician, by phone, but preferably by email, or letter, advising her/him to vote against the bill .

GET YOUR ACTION KIT HERE.

This link  will take you to a complete list of all Queensland politicians.

http://www.parliament.qld.gov.au/documents/Members/mailingLists/MEMLIST.pdf  

Either print out the submission below or  post, or hand it in at your local members office, or cut and paste this into an email send it to your local member of parliament or all on the list, but do something, or we all lose our rights and property.

WEAPONS AMENDMENT  BILL of  2011

Name ………………………………….
Address…………………………………………………..
………………………………….P/c……………  Telephone Num…………………………………

To my State Representative

………………………………………………………………………

It is my submission that you do not vote or support the Weapons Amendment Bill of 2011.
It does not serve justice on individual wrong doers and collectively punishes the innocent by removing their rights to own property that they lawfully are entitled to do. It gives no compensation for this property.
Please pass my submission to the Police Minister, as I do not wish him to support this Bill and will never vote for anyone that votes or supports this Bill.

Yours

Sign …………………………………….                            

Date…………………………………….

To Add more Reasons. Say this.
1.Banning firearms with over 10 shot capacity will not reduce crime and make Queensland a safer place.
2. Increased penalties on licensed shooters does not prevent crimes against the public.
3. Banning knives does not solve a knife problem; it only places restrictions on law abiding members of the community, such as Butchers, Chefs, Farmers, (Farmers have already been charged for having stock knives is a belt pouch. When they come into town)
4. all of the increased regulations on firearms do nothing to make the community safer, or to prevent or solve weapons crimes. They only place restrictions on the law abiding.

If you want any other material to aim at these politicians go to
THE TRUTH ABOUT GUNS,CRIME AND VIOLENCE RESULTS OF THE

’96/’97 AUSTRALIAN GUN LAWS & “BUYBACK
http://www.gunsandcrime.org/auresult.html
http://www.gunsandcrime.org/austudies.html
Guns make it easier to kill and injure people.  Therefore, it is obvious to any  fool that reducing the prevalence of guns will reduce the prevalence of death and injury.  But, what about people who aren’t fools? Read the above Links.

 And also on Australian Bureau of Statistics.
http://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/abs@.nsf/Lookup/D1B46FA4D698BAB5CA25773700169C9F?opendocument

 “In April 2005, there were 15,966,900 persons aged 15 years and over living in private dwellings in Australia. In the 12 months prior to the survey it was estimated that:
     58,900 (0.4%) persons were victims of at least one robbery
    770,600 (4.8%) persons were victims of at least one assault
    44,100 (0.3%) persons aged 18 years and over were victims of at least one sexual assault.
Unlawful entry with intent  248 475
In total 841,500 persons aged 15 years and over were victims of one or  more of these selected personal crimes, equating to an overall personal victimisation prevalence rate of 5.3%. Is this making Australia a safer place?
Out of 258 murders in 2008
Firearm was            31
Knife was                87
Bat/Chemicals           9
Other weapons        35
 And NO weapons were used in 85 murders how is Mr Landbroek going to legislate to stop the 85 murders that people have committed with there  hands. Amputate every ones right hand?

In Queensland parliament, on 8 September 2011 Mr Chris FOLEY (Independent Member for Maryborough) (our neighbouring town) at 4.10 pm said.
 “I rise to participate and make a short contribution to the debate on the Weapons Amendment Bill. Obviously, it makes good sense to restrict the use of lasers………… The statistics show that violent crimes involving knives are nine times that of guns. They are not only carrying them but when someone pulls out a knife they all pull out a knife and then what in the past would have been a good old-fashioned brawl becomes a knife fight. Young people are losing their lives in incredibly horrific numbers……. They are not only losing their lives but are being inflicted with significant slashing and stabbing injuries…… I certainly have a Swiss army knife that carry around with me and I have used it on all sorts of occasions.
Mr Schwarten: Can you open it with one hand?
Mr FOLEY: No, I cannot.
Mr Schwarten: Well, therefore it is not illegal.
I am a target shooter and am a member of the Sporting Shooters Association. I am a handgun owner and I own rifles. I store them within all of the legal requirements.
With those reservations about the sporting shooters and the participation cards and a couple of other things like that, I will support the bill. I am not happy with those couple of things that will need to be changed.”

THIS MAKES THE LICENCED SHOOTER, THE HUNTED.
We are the prey, of the police, their ticket to promotion.

So when Chris or another licenced shooter is handed a piece of history, an ancient single barrel .22 as a gift to put on his licence by a WW II vet pensioner and is apprehended as he is driving to the police station to hand it in. He will lose his career, his licence, his self esteem, and will receive 120 penalty points instead of 60
Clause 9 50A (Possession of unregistered firearms) Section 50A(1).
For having his Swiss Army pocket knife in a public place on the way to parliament he and the all other good citizens under the new  s 51 (Possession of a knife in a public place) instead of 20 penalty units or 6 months imprisonment’— 40 penalty units or 1 year’s imprisonment’.
Unless he has a religious purpose
‘(3A) Also, it is a reasonable excuse for subsection (1), to the extent the subsection relates to a public place, to physically possess a knife for genuine religious purposes.
Example—
A Sikh may possess, in a public place, a knife known as a kirpan to comply with the person’s religious faith.
Of course that does not help a Farmer that forgets to take his pocket knife of his belt when he goes to town. It’s happening already.
Then under the new s 58 (Dangerous conduct with weapon prohibited generally)
(1) Section 58(1), definition weapon insert— when his children decide to play out side with his (f) laser pointer from the white board
‘(f) a laser pointer.’ instead of 100 penalty units or 2 years imprisonment’—
omit, insert— 200 penalty units or 4 years imprisonment’. For him or  for the Kids?
 
A keen target shooter like Chris may want to free float the barrel or bed the action in epoxy bond, drill and tap some holes in the receiver for attaching scope bases, or as he may have two Model 2 Brno’s mix up the bolts and have them in un-matching rifles. The nice policeman that stops him for a check on the way to the range does not care if it was just a mistake. So Chris has just voted in parliament to double the penalty under
s 62 (Modifying construction or action of firearms) instead of 100 penalty units or 2 years imprisonment’—‘200 penalty units or 4 years imprisonment’.
Say it quick it doesn’t mean much. Until the legitimate shooter has to defend himself in court with expert witnesses.
Then as Chris is a shooter, and say he has succeeded in getting that old ancient .22 on his licence waited 11 months for his PTA while he was paying storage fees at his local gun shop in Maryborough and finally gets it home. He notices that it has not got a serial number on it so with the best intentions he phones Weapons licencing and the lady tells him to stamp a number on it and take it into the police station for verification, they ask him who changed it, he tells them so he is charged. It has all happened already in Queensland, Chris has just agreed to double the penalty for the innocent shooter again. s 63 (Altering identification marks of weapons) ‘100 penalty units or 2 years imprisonment 200 penalty units or 4 years imprisonment’.

Chris finally gets to the range with all his other charges pending and as he has a lot on his mind he forget to fill in the range register, or put the flag up, of forgets to chalk his name as a range officer on the black board, The police arrive do a check and he is again charged as in breach of ‘Responsibilities of person attending an approved range’
(1) Section 110(1) and (2), and instead of ‘20 penalty units to face he now faces 40 penalty units’.
Chris also has another problem as when he was picked up for a random check on the way to the rifle range, as firearms and the weapons act is involved, under the Police Powers and Responsibilities Act of 2000, Chris can be searched, not just his house, his car and but his person as well an what do you know the kind police man finds his Swiss Army pocket knife, that he had slipped into his pocket as the little screwdrivers were handy to adjust his telescopic sight with, well the spring had broken which holds the blade closed Now the blade will just open with gravity, just a flick of the wrist, no locked blade but the law does not insist on that, just that it can be opened without the use of two hands. Chris has now more charges to face. As the new law says,
“any knife so designed or constructed so as to be used as a weapon that while the knife is held in 1 hand, the blade may be released by that hand;” Oh a fair man would say but the Swiss Army pocket knife is not designed that way, but the policeman in court says that Chris broke the spring on purpose so he could operate the knife with one hand so constructed the breach. The Policeman gets promotion and a raise, Chris faces higher penalties as he has an illegal weapon and is looking at another 4 years in the Penitentiary. That’s not all as that would apply, if he was found to have a Stanley knife, or a box paper cutter, or an old fashioned razor, or a pair of scissors as they can be opened exposing the blade with one hand.
It gets worse as the new 68CA Prohibition on possession of particular magazines -category B weapons
‘(1) This section applies to the holder of a firearms licence who is the registered owner of a category B weapon under the licence.
‘(2) The holder must not possess a magazine—
(a) if the category B weapon has a lever or pump action—with a maximum capacity of more than 10 rounds for the weapon; or
(b) if the category B weapon is a repeating centre fire rifle—with a maximum capacity of more than 15 rounds for the weapon.
Maximum penalty—10 penalty units.
So hyper thetically Chris is keen on Lever Action competition at the Sporting Shooter and has some very nice Marlins, Winchesters, Commemoratives, worth two or three thousand dollars each so he has to hand in ten of them to the police for no compensation, $30,000 dollars worth as in .38 special he can get 11 in the magazine or more. What’s worse after he hand them in he is given a random police search and they find a few spare magazine tubes, and a 20 shot .223 magazine for his pump action Remington that he had sold and just kept the magazine.  That’s 10 penalty points each and more legal costs.   
They also found a spare magazine that he had not sold when he disposed of this Beretta Model 92 , 9mm in 2003 and now gets charged for being in possession of that as well due to the new section 68D (Prohibition on possession of magazine with more than 10 rounds) 68D Prohibition on possession of particular magazines—category H weapons’. More penalty point, wow the magistrates going to throw away the key. Paedophiles, cannot have their names in the newspaper but politicians can. He will spend more time in jail than a bank robber. I know a man named Frank, a pawn broker, who was charged with innocent, no victim, weapons act charges like these, he made the mistake of trying to defend himself, because he could not afford it and got 13 year, he is still in prison. When will Chris or you, or me, get out?
Chris also supports the new Clause 47 Amendment of s 73, “Modifying firearm to make it permanently in-operaberable”, not that anything ever is permanently in operable, every part could be butchered but someone can rectify it. That is not the point with this as, as this new section changes the requirements to how it has been achieved and the process of the way it has been done. Chris has a few wall hangers welded up on his wall at home, an old 12 gauge shotgun and a old 1866 lever action, both as dangerous as a boat anchor. When he has the search of his house, Chris dashes for his office desk and pulls out his list of firearms and the two certificates Police Forms 31 for the Permanently Inoperable firearms, the smart Policeman looking for another feather in his hat, says sorry they do not comply with the current legislation, you should have had them done again and re-certified as per the amendments of 2011.
He will be up for 50 A ‘Possession of unregistered firearms’, another 120 penalty points each, as Chris has supported and will vote for these amendments to the Weapons Act.

Chris feels good about banning knifes as he says they are used nine times more in violent crime than a firearm, but blunt instruments are used in ten times as many murders, does that justify banning bricks, beer bottles, boots, and ornaments. Britain went through this sham of banning even the kitchen knifes and still it is the murder capital of Europe. The only way to reduce personal attacks is to issue licences ‘to carry’ handguns. This has occurred in the USA which is the only countyr in the world that has reducing statistics in personal attacks.

Nothing in these amendments, will save a life or protect anyone from being stabbed, in fact the reverse, Crims bent on Murder, Mayhem, House invasions will not be put off with any of the provisions in any of these Acts of legislation, they will just feel more comfortable in the knowledge that ordinary good citizens are totally disarmed. How can Chris believe that any delinquent, even if he does not intend to murder others, and only wants to protect his life will take any notice either way. Its like asking the truck bomber, to fill up the parking meteor, before he leaves and sets off the bomb.
Say, instead of banning our tools they legislated to amputate every persons right hand, would they still not kill the same amount with the left.
 The whole design of this legislation is aimed at the innocent, the people who do not know they have done anything wrong, it is designed to impose more threats and impositions on licensed shooters, with the aim of reducing the fast growing number of licenced shooter as the police weapons branch cannot cope.   
Why is Chris helping Police, who wrote the legislation for the Labour politicians to put through parliament?
Has he not read it? Is he unaware of how it steals legally owned property from licenced shooters, without offering any compensation?

A. Has he had a pay off? I doubt it, I tend to think the best of people and I do not think he would do that.

B. Is Maryborough promised a new wing to it public hospital? Well that would be immoral, and reprehensible to exploit one section of the community to aid another, even if it was a deserving one. Also, do Labour politicians ever keep their promises? Surely Chris would not fall for that one?

C. Does Chris think, like many in the shooting fraternity. ‘Well, I do not have semi-auto, it does not affect me’, or ‘I do not have a Hand Gun, so it does not affect me’, or I do not have a pump action shotguns so it does not affect me? While they are picking on him, they might leave me alone. These people can never see, that we all have to hang together or they will hang us all together.
“In Germany they came first for the Communists, and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a trade unionist. Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn’t speak up because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me, and by that time no one was left to speak up.”
–Martin Niemöller, 1945

THE ENEMY WITHIN.
I have been observing, ‘the enemy within’, for 49 years of struggle against deceptive, misconstrued, power grabbing legislation. Each time I feel, disappointed, in people and betrayed. Every main political party has betrayed the shooters, now it is a local independent. Worse than that, he is one of our own, a competitive shooter, that is supporting this ‘bill’ this draconian legislation which it’s only purpose is to prop up a tyranny against us. If we cannot convince our own fraternity that Gun Control is just People Control, it is the end of all hope.   
Chris Foley Speech is recorded in full on http://www.legislation.qld.gov.au/Bills/53PDF/2011/WeaponsAmB11.pdf

There are 200,000 shooters in the state of Queensland, many hundreds of clubs, many hundreds of Firearm Dealers, there are over 3600 email address that receive the Owen Guns Bulletin, most are located in Queensland, yet to date Police sources report that only 200 submissions have been received by the Ministers office in opposition to the new Weapons Draft legislation.

The submissions can be sent electronically by email before the 14^th of September 2010. These impending laws will be another huge burden on every firearm owner in this state. More guns will have to be handed in, Licences will be much harder to get, PTAs will be harder to get, fee increases of 126%, your safe has to be in a locked room, your guns have to have trigger locks, even Daisy air guns. you will be the hunted.

If more shooters do not put in a submission they will deduce that the balance of the shooting population are in favour of the impending legislation.

A submission needs only be a few lines from a Queensland voters stating.

That the new draft Weapons legislation imposes more obstructive burdens on law abiding shooters, with less protection for the general community from criminal use.

Or select any of the excerpts, sections from the draft Weapons Act & Regulations, at the bottom of this page and cut and past into and email say you don’t agree with it and send it as a submission.

Use any of the material on these pages. Such as this further Submission

Public submissions close September 14. 2010. So do it now.

Please write and email, use the power of the computer to send your personal letter to the politicians, use the links below to send to as many Queensland politicians as possible.

Weapons Act Review Secretariat: Click here to e-mail the Weapons Act Review Secretariat

Weapons Secretariat Postal Address
The Secretariat
Weapons Act Review
Level 2, Tourism House
30 Makerston Street
GPO Box 1440
BRISBANE QLD 4001

Make sure you always include your name and address. That way you will be taken seriously.

QLD Gov Ministers: Click here to e-mail all Gov Ministers

QLD Shadow Gov Ministers: Click here to e-mail all Shadow Gov Ministers

Draft of the Weapons Bill 2010 ( 879 KB) and the Draft Weapons Regulation 2010 ( 891 KB

To

David Smith

Chief of Staff

Office of the Minister for Police, Corrective Services

and Emergency Services

23 August 2010

From

Ron Owen

24 Mc Mahon Rd

Gympie, 4570

0754825070

Re- Second Submission to Weapons Bill 2010 and draft Weapons Regulation 2010.

Re – Response To Police Minister Robertson Concerning First Submission to Weapons Bill 2010 and draft Weapons Regulation 2010.

Dear Sir.

You state, that “Community safety is a priority of the Bligh Government.” Yet disarm and leave defenceless the law abiding members of our community and encourage the lawless by leaving those good people defenceless.

You state, that “The Government considers weapons control and the associated licensing and registration systems are fundamentally important components to making our communities as safe and secure as possible.” Yet have not supplied any evidence, or any argument to prove that licensing and Registration of firearms makes our communities any more secure or safe. Please respond to my first submission requesting this information. How many Home invasions would have been prevented if the Criminals knew that there intended victims were armed? Would they have proceeded with the home Invasion?

You State, “This Government is committed to ensuring the weapons laws work for all Queenslanders.” Yet the imposition of these laws only ensured that good Queenslanders pay millions of dollars per years, work through countless meaningless forms to keep hundreds of Police and staff busy wasting everyones time and money. For no reason at all except creating more crime figures which creates more police. Its called Parkinsons Law.

You State , “the Weapons Act Review Committee (the Committee), represented by weapons industry stakeholders, was established. The Committee considered an extensive list of proposed amendments for inclusion in the draft Weapons Bill 2010.” There story is that they did not accept any of it and there recommendations were not used. That this is Police written legislation to further their cause for more jobs for the boys.

You State, “The material you submitted has been forwarded to the Weapons Act Review Secretariat for consideration as part of the review.” Why did you not respond to any of the points in my submission, except the Cost Increases?

You State, “Cost increases, weapons licensing fees in Queensland have historically been held at artificially low levels. All costs associated with the implementation of national uniform firearms controls have been absorbed over time.” You were given Millions from the Medicare levy from the Federal government to impose that set of restrictions on the good citizens of Queensland, Hundred maybe thousands have died waiting for a hospital bed, due to the waste of the first 500 million. If you want some more money ask your ex Director of Administration Mr Robert Carson to show you how they paid money to XXXX and Superman, Batman, Mickey Mouse and each other, during the buy back process. If you cannot find a copy please ask and I will show you how they paid $2 million just for cardboard boxes. The law abiding firearm owners of Queensland should not be asked to pay for Police corruption.

You say, “The costs associated with the management, licensing and registration of weapons in Queensland have increased substantially”. The law abiding firearm owners of Queensland should not be asked to pay for Police inefficiencies. As it is we have to do all the work for them.

You say, “As a result, the general public has been required to subsidise those costs.” Why not have a referendum and ask the ones that want to have a licence and registration system to pay for it, bill the ones that vote for it, not the ones that have to suffer under it. If you want any bets on you winning a referenda on that basis I will take any bets. If you want to impose it you should pay for it. The law abiding shooter of this state are not Criminals they should not be penalised and fined for making this State a safer place.

You say, “This Government considers these costs should be attributed more closely to the users who benefit from the administrative process,” Could you please name one benefit that having a licence imposed on the free ownership of property or the registration of that property does for the licensed firearms owners. As it does not make them easier to get, easier to use, in reality it only makes them harder to sell. The technology of making firearms has been around for many hundreds of years and your even licensing crossbows which is 4000 year old technology. There is no benefit for firearm owners or anyone else for that matter except for maybe Criminals as they can get a full list of where the firearms are stored from any crooked policeman.

You say, “It is also the Government’s view that the weapons licensing fees in Queensland are reasonable and not excessive when compared to those of other jurisdictions.” Check for yourself I know that other states Dealers Licences and PTA application are a lot cheaper. Are you just listening to the Queensland Police again.

You say, “the Government and the Police Service are currently investing in the development and introduction of a contemporary weapons licensing management system. The increased costs associated with some weapons licensing fees will ensure the introduction of an on-line weapons licensing system. This new system will streamline processes and provide efficiency of service to licence holders, firearm dealers and shooting clubs. The on-line services will significantly reduce the need for more than 100 000 police station attendances each year by members of the public to undertake weapons licensing transactions. Developing new online capabilities will allow members of the public to submit their details on the internet, without the need to attend a police establishment.” You would think that the Queensland Police would have a copy of the Microsoft Excell by now and not have to charge us for another one. You can remove the need for 100,000 attendances and the need for the Police to come and check the safes and security all in one hit just follow New Zealand and Canada and remove the requirement for the registration and licencing of Long Arms. In one swoop, you would have 200,000 extra votes for your party and their families votes, you could also put more police on the street fighting crime and earning income writing speeding tickets. It would save us all a lot of work and money. What’s more it would keep the opposition out of power for years and they deserve it, as they, with your parties assistance created this monster in the first place..

I trust this information is of assistance.

Yours sincerely

Ron Owen JP (Qual)

The Daft Act 2010

ammunition see the Explosives Act 1999 , schedule 2.

The Objects to Limit Law Abiding Shooters.

2 Categorising weapons

Prescribing categories of weapons, and things to be within a

particular category of weapon.

3 Limiting or prohibiting licensing of particular weapons

Limiting or prohibiting licensing of particular weapons or

particular types or categories of weapons.

4 Limiting or prohibiting acquisition, possession or use of

weapons and regulated items

Limiting or prohibiting the acquisition, possession or use of

particular weapons or regulated items or particular types or

categories of weapons or regulated items.

5 Limiting or prohibiting activities involving weapons

Limiting or prohibiting particular activities involving

weapons or particular types or categories of weapons.

7 Category D weapons

(1) Each of the following is a category D weapon—

(a) a self-loading centre-fire rifle;

(b) a firearm that substantially duplicates a self-loading

centre-fire rifle in appearance, design or function;

(c) a self-loading shotgun with a magazine capacity of more

than 5 rounds;

(d) a pump action shotgun with a magazine capacity of

more than 5 rounds;

(e) a self-loading rim-fire rifle with a magazine capacity of

more than 10 rounds.

(2) Subsection (1) applies to a weapon mentioned in the

subsection even if the weapon is permanently deactivated.

(3) A major component part of a weapon mentioned in subsection

(1) is a category D weapon.

(4) An imitation of a weapon mentioned in subsection (1) is a

category D weapon.

284 Declaration of weapons category by commissioner

(1) The commissioner may, by gazette notice, declare a

dangerous thing that is not categorised in the Weapons

Categories Regulation 2010 to be within a particular category

of weapon.

(2) In deciding whether to make a declaration under subsection

(1), the commissioner must have regard to—

(a) whether the thing has been designed for military

purposes; and

(b) the category of weapon the thing most closely

resembles; and

(c) the need to ensure public and individual safety.

(3) A declaration under subsection (1)—

(a) takes effect on the day (the day of effect) that is 3 days

after the day it is published in the gazette or on the later

day stated in the declaration; and

(b) ends on the day that is 6 months after the day of effect;

and

(c) may not be made in relation to a thing that has been the

subject of a previous declaration under this section.

(4) The commissioner must notify each person, whom the

commissioner is aware is in possession of a thing to which a

declaration under subsection (1) applies, of the declaration.

(5) If the commissioner declares a thing to be within a particular

category of weapon under subsection (1), the thing is, for the

purposes of this Act, taken to be within that category only.

(6) In any proceeding for an offence under this Act in relation to a

thing that is declared under subsection (1) to be within a

particular category, it is a defence to a charge in relation to

possession of a thing as being of a particular category that the

person has not been notified by the commissioner under

subsection (4) of the declaration.

Chapter 9 Miscellaneous

Part 2 Declarations, statements and exclusion notices

Page 221

(7) No compensation is payable by the State because of a

declaration under this section.

(8) In this section—

dangerous thing means—

(a) a firearm; or

(b) a thing ordinarily described as a weapon that is capable

of causing death or injury.

POWER OF Search

The Daft Bill

Page 296

Police Powers and Responsibilities Act 2000

1 Sections 25(1), 714(1)(a) and 715(a), ‘Weapons Act

1990’—

omit, insert—

‘Weapons Act 2010’.

2 Section 159(c), 4th dot point, after ‘1990’—

insert—

‘or Weapons Act 2010’.

To page 302.

“Which then gives the power.”

Police Powers and Responsibilities Act 2000

Chapter 2 General enforcement powers

Part 1 Entry, inquiries and inspection

22 Power to enter etc. for relevant laws

(1) For ensuring compliance with a relevant law, a police officer

may do any of the following—

(a) at any reasonable time, enter and stay on a place used

for a purpose under a licence under the relevant law;

(b) inspect, photograph or copy a prescribed item there or at

a place with appropriate facilities for photographing or

copying the item;

(c) seize a thing to which the relevant law applies, if the

thing is evidence of the commission of an offence

against the relevant law or another Act;

(d) require a licence holder or someone else apparently in

possession of prescribed items to produce stated

prescribed items for inspection;

(e) inspect security measures a person must maintain under

the relevant law;

(f) require a licence holder or person apparently in

possession or in charge of the place to give to the police

officer reasonable help to do something mentioned in

paragraph (b) or (e).

(2) A police officer may enter a part of a place not used for the

purpose for which entry is made, but only to get to the place

used for the purpose.

relevant law, means an Act under which a person or place

must be licensed, and prescribed under a regulation for

chapter 2, part 1.

159 Application of pt 2

This part applies only in relation to the following offences (a

part 2 offence)—

(a) an indictable offence;

(b) an offence involving gaming or betting;

(c) an offence against any of the following Acts—

• Confiscation Act

• Explosives Act 1999

• Nature Conservation Act 1992

• Weapons Act 1990;

(d) an offence against the Liquor Act 1992, section 168B or

168C.

25 Power to demand production of licence etc. for weapons

(1) This section applies if a person is required under the Weapons

Act 1990—

(a) to be the holder of a licence or permit to acquire under

that Act; or

(b) to have the approval of any person; or

30 Prescribed circumstances for searching persons without

warrant

The prescribed circumstances for searching a person without a

warrant are as follows—

(a) the person has something that may be—

(i) a weapon, knife or explosive the person may not

lawfully possess,

32 Prescribed circumstances for searching vehicle without

warrant

The prescribed circumstances for searching a vehicle without

a warrant are that there is something in the vehicle that—

may be a weapon or explosive a person may not lawfully

possess,

Security Over Kill

165 Secure storage facilities at safe storage address

(1) The entity must—

(a) store the weapon unloaded in secure storage facilities

for the weapon at the safe storage address for the

weapon; and

(b) if the weapon is stored in secure storage facilities

mentioned in section 162, paragraph (b) or

(c)(i)—ensure the weapon is temporarily deactivated;

166 Container in locked room

(1) If the entity is unable to comply with section 165, the entity

must—

(a) store the weapon unloaded and temporarily deactivated

in a securely closed container; and

(b) take reasonable precautions to ensure the weapon is not

accessible to persons who are not lawfully authorised to

possess the weapon.

Maximum penalty—100 penalty units or 2 years

imprisonment.

13 When a firearm is temporarily deactivated

(1) A firearm is temporarily deactivated if it is modified in the

way prescribed under a regulation to make it temporarily

incapable of being discharged.

(2) A regulation made under subsection (1) may prescribe a way

approved by an authorised officer.

167 Vehicle

(1) If the entity is unable to comply with section 165 and section

166, the entity must store the weapon unloaded and

temporarily deactivated—

(a) in the locked boot of a vehicle; or

(b) in a locked metal container fixed to a vehicle; or

(c) in a securely closed container that is out of sight in a

vehicle.

Maximum penalty—100 penalty units or 2 years

imprisonment.

(2) The metal container mentioned in subsection (1)(b), and

anything on or attached to it, must not suggest a weapon is

inside.

171 Particular parts of firearms

(1) This part applies to an entity that possesses a prescribed part

of a firearm if—

(a) for an entity that is an individual—the prescribed part of

the firearm is not in the physical possession of the

individual; or

(b) for an entity that is a body—the prescribed part of the

firearm is not in the physical possession of the body’s

representative.

(2) The entity must take reasonable precautions to ensure the

prescribed part is not accessible to persons who are not

lawfully authorised to possess the prescribed part.

Examples of taking reasonable precautions——

• placing the prescribed part in a locked container

• placing the prescribed part in a locked room

Maximum penalty—10 penalty units

(3) In this section—

prescribed part, of a firearm, means the barrel, or breech

block or bolt, of the firearm that is not part of a complete

firearm.

7 Meaning of category of weapon

(1) A category of weapon is a category of weapon prescribed

under a regulation.

Note—

See the Weapons Categories Regulation 2010.

(2) A regulation may prescribe a particular firearm to be within a

category of weapon.

Note—

The category of weapon within which a particular firearm is prescribed

impacts on, for example, the type of licence that may be held for the

firearm, the storage obligations under chapter 5 for the firearm, and the

penalty under section 178 for unlawful possession of the firearm.

169 Multiple weapons

(1) This section applies to an entity that possesses a weapon at a

place where there are more than 30 weapons, whether or not

the entity possesses each or any of the other weapons, if—

(a) for an entity that is an individual—the weapon is not in

the physical possession of the individual; or

(b) for an entity that is a body—the weapon is not in the

physical possession of the body’s representative.

(2) The entity must—

(a) store the weapon unloaded and temporarily deactivated

in a secure storeroom or a secure vault; and

(b) take reasonable precautions to ensure the weapon is not

accessible to persons who are not lawfully authorised to

possess the weapon.

Maximum penalty—100 penalty units or 2 years

imprisonment.

Part 3 Verification of particulars

157 Production of weapon to establish or verify particulars of

weapon

(1) This section applies to a person in possession of a weapon.

(2) A member of the police service may require the person to

produce the weapon to an authorised officer at a stated time

and place to establish or verify any of the following

particulars of the weapon—

(a) the action, calibre, category, make, model or type of the

weapon;

11 Meaning of imitation

(1) An imitation, of a weapon, is a thing that—

(a) is a reasonable copy of the weapon; and

(b) is not capable of causing death or injury by discharging

a projectile, or a thing mentioned in section 8(1)(b)(ii);

and

(c) could reasonably be taken to be the weapon.

Note—

A regulation made under section 6(1)(b) may prescribe an imitation of a

weapon to be within a category of weapon. An imitation of a category

A, B, C or M weapon is a regulated item—see section 240(c).

(2) An imitation, of a crossbow, longbow or spear gun, is a thing

that—

(a) is a reasonable copy of a crossbow, longbow or spear

gun; and

(b) is not capable of causing death or injury by discharging

a projectile, or a thing mentioned in section 8(1)(b)(ii);

and

(c) could reasonably be taken to be a crossbow, longbow or

379 Registration of antique handguns

(1) This section applies if, at the commencement, a person

possesses an antique handgun.

(2) For the purposes of section 244 of the new Act, the person is

taken to have acquired the antique handgun on the day of the

commencement.

380 Registration of permanently deactivated category A, B or

C weapons

(1) This section applies if, at the commencement, a person

possesses a permanently deactivated category A, B or C

weapon.

(2) For the purposes of section 253 of the new Act, the person is

taken to have acquired the permanently deactivated category

A, B or C weapon on the day of the commencement.

Schedule 2 Subject matter for regulations

section 325

1 Authorising things under licence or permit

Providing for things that the holder of a licence or permit, or

any other person, including, for example, an unlicensed

person, may or may not do under the authority of a licence or

permit.

NO APPEAL To Magistrates Court.

Tribunal has no Rule of evidence, no judge, no discovery , Very little area able to review.

Chapter 8 Reviews

279 Who may apply for review

(1) A person whose interests are affected by a reviewable

decision may apply, as provided under the QCAT Act, to

QCAT for a review of the decision.

(2) For this section, a person who has been given or is entitled to

be given a QCAT information notice about a decision is taken

to be a person whose interests are affected by the decision.

(3) In this section—

reviewable decision means—

(a) a decision mentioned in schedule 1; or

(b) a decision prescribed under a regulation for the purpose

of this paragraph.

280 Stay of operation of decision

(1) An application to QCAT for a review of a decision does not

stay the decision.

(2) However, the applicant may apply, as provided under the

QCAT Act, to QCAT for a stay of the decision if, and only

if—

(a) the applicant is unable to satisfy an occupational

requirement because of the decision; or

(b) the applicant is unable to conduct a business because of

the decision.

(3) QCAT may grant the stay on conditions it considers

appropriate.

(4) An application to QCAT for a review of a decision affects the

decision, or carrying out of a decision, only if the decision is

stayed

Schedule 1 Reviewable decisions

section 279(1)

Section Description of decision

Licences

33 refusal to issue licence

37 refusal to renew licence

55 refusal to approve transfer of weapon to another licence

61 refusal to amend licence

62 decision to amend licence

65 decision to suspend licence

66 decision to cancel licence

85 decision to give notice to dispose

87 refusal to replace licence

Permits

104 refusal to issue permit

107 refusal to renew permit

131 refusal to amend permit

132 decision to amend permit

135 decision to suspend permit

136 decision to cancel permit

144 refusal to replace permit

Disguised Category??????

178 Unlawful possession of weapon prohibited

(1) A person must not unlawfully possess a weapon.

Examples of lawful possession of a weapon—

• possession under a licence

• possession by a person to whom this Act does not apply under

section 15

• possession by a person under an exemption granted under section

19

• possession by an unlicensed person under division 2

Maximum penalty—

(a) for an excluded person—

(i) if the person unlawfully possesses 10 or more

weapons at least 5 of which are category D, E, H or

R weapons—15 years imprisonment; or

(ii) if subparagraph (i) does not apply and the person

unlawfully possesses 10 or more weapons—600

penalty units or 12 years imprisonment; or

(iii) if subparagraphs (i) and (ii) do not apply—

(A) for a category D, H or R weapon—400

penalty units or 9 years imprisonment; or

(B) for a category C or E weapon—300 penalty

units or 6 years imprisonment; or

(C) for a category A, B or M weapon, or an

uncategorised firearm—200 penalty units or

4 years imprisonment; or

(b) otherwise—

(i) if the person unlawfully possesses 10 or more

weapons at least 5 of which are category D, E, H or

R weapons—13 years imprisonment; or

(ii) if subparagraph (i) does not apply and the person

unlawfully possesses 10 or more weapons—500

penalty units or 10 years imprisonment; or

(iii) if subparagraphs (i) and (ii) do not apply—

(A) for a category D, H or R weapon—300

penalty units or 7 years imprisonment; or

(B) for a category C or E weapon—200 penalty

units or 4 years imprisonment; or

(C) for a category A, B or M weapon, or an

uncategorised firearm—100 penalty units or

2 years imprisonment.

(2) For subsection (1), a person who possesses a disguised

category A weapon or a disguised category B weapon is taken

to possess a category H weapon.

(3) If the maximum penalty otherwise applying for an offence

against subsection (1) would be that mentioned in paragraph

(a)(iii) or (b)(iii) of the penalty (the relevant provision), and

the weapon is an imitation of a weapon, a permanently

deactivated firearm or an heirloom weapon, the maximum

penalty for the offence is half of the maximum penalty

mentioned in the relevant provision.

(4) A court, in sentencing a person convicted of an offence

against subsection (1), may take into consideration whether

the person stored the weapon in secure storage facilities for

the weapon.

(5) In this section—

179 Effect of licensee’s failure to enter particulars in register

(1) This section applies to a licensee who is required, under this

Act, to keep a register in relation to weapons.

(2) If the licensee, without reasonable excuse, possesses a

weapon the prescribed particulars of which have not been

entered in the register as required under this Act, the licensee

is taken to unlawfully possess the weapon and may be

prosecuted and punished under section 178 for the possession.

Possession

180 Possession by licensee of unregistered firearm, prescribed part or conversion unit prohibited

(1) A licensee must not possess a firearm unless the firearm is a

registered weapon.

Maximum penalty—120 penalty units.

(2) A licensee must not possess a prescribed part of a firearm

unless the prescribed part is, or is part of, a registered weapon.

Maximum penalty—120 penalty units.

(3) A licensee must not possess a conversion unit unless the

conversion unit is a registered weapon.

Maximum penalty—120 penalty units.

(4) A licensed dealer or licensed armourer does not contravene

subsection (1), (2) or (3) if the firearm, prescribed part or

conversion unit is entered in a register kept by the dealer or

armourer as required under a regulation.

(5) In subsection (1), the reference to firearm does not include a

reference to a major component part of a firearm.

(6) In this section—

(a) means a thing mentioned in the Weapons Categories

Regulation 2010, section 4(4), 5(4) or 9(5); and

(b) includes part of a thing mentioned in paragraph (a).

Part 4 Offences involving the acquisition and disposal of weapons

Division 1 Acquisition and disposal

192 Definition for div 1

In this part—

weapon, if the weapon is a firearm, does not include a major

component part of the firearm, other than the action, body,

frame or receiver of the firearm.

Notes—

1 The barrel, breech block or bolt, or top slide of a firearm is not a

weapon for the purpose of this division.

2 Under section 6(1)(b) and the Weapons Categories Regulation

2010, sections 4(4), 5(4) and 9(5), a conversion unit for a category

A, B or H weapon is also a weapon.

171 Particular parts of firearms

(1) This part applies to an entity that possesses a prescribed part

of a firearm if—

(a) for an entity that is an individual—the prescribed part of

the firearm is not in the physical possession of the

individual; or

(b) for an entity that is a body—the prescribed part of the

firearm is not in the physical possession of the body’s

representative.

(2) The entity must take reasonable precautions to ensure the

prescribed part is not accessible to persons who are not

lawfully authorised to possess the prescribed part.

Examples of taking reasonable precautions——

• placing the prescribed part in a locked container

• placing the prescribed part in a locked room

Maximum penalty—10 penalty units

(3) In this section—

prescribed part, of a firearm, means the barrel, or breech

block or bolt, of the firearm that is not part of a complete

firearm.

207 Licensed armourer must employ qualified weapons

employee

A licensed armourer must not employ a person who, in the

course of the person’s employment, will have access to a

weapon unless the person is a qualified weapons employee.

Maximum penalty—100 penalty units.

Regulated items

Part 1 Preliminary

239 Purpose of ch 7

The purpose of this chapter is to improve public and

individual safety in relation to regulated items by—

(a) requiring the registration of particular regulated items;

and

(b) prohibiting or limiting the acquisition and possession of

regulated items; and

(c) imposing requirements about the safe storage and

handling of regulated items; and

(d) prohibiting the unlawful supply of, or trafficking in,

regulated items.

240 Meaning of regulated item

A regulated item is—

(a) an antique handgun; or

(b) a permanently deactivated category A, B or C weapon;

or

(c) an imitation of a category A, B, C or M weapon; or

(d) an adjustable stock; or

(e) a detachable magazine; or

(f) a laser pointer; or

(g) a restricted article.

6 Shooting associations

295 Notice of expelled members

(1) A shooting association must give an authorised officer a

notice stating—

(a) when a member of the association is expelled from the

association;

(b) the name and licence number, if any, of the member; and

(c) the reason for the expulsion.

Maximum penalty—60 penalty units.

(2) The notice mentioned in subsection (1) must be given to an

authorised officer within 14 days after the day the member is

expelled.

(3) This section applies despite any duty of confidentiality owed

by the shooting association, or a representative of the shooting

association, or a member of the governing body of the

shooting association, to the member.

(4) The giving of information by the shooting association under

this section does not give rise to any criminal or civil action or

remedy against the shooting association, or a representative of

the shooting association, or a member of the governing body

of the shooting association.

296 Request for information about members

(1) An authorised officer may, by notice given to a shooting

association, request the association to give the authorised

officer the following information—

(a) whether a particular person is or was a member of the

association;

(b) the particulars of a person who holds or held a particular

stated position within the association.

Excerpts from The Daft Regulation,

Secure safes

10 Safes

(1) The safe must be in a room of a permanent building.

(2) The room must always be locked (other than the time

necessary to have the room open for a proper purpose).

(3) The safe must be made of steel and—

(a) weigh at least 150kg; or

(b) be fixed to the permanent building by welding or

hardened steel bolts of at least 10mm in diameter

Schedule 6.

handgun shooting competition

handgun shooting competition means a national or

international shooting competition, that includes using a

prescribed category H weapon, at a place where the sport of

target shooting using a category H weapon is lawfully

authorised to take place.

(2) However, if the licensee’s genuine reason for possession of

the weapon is to engage in the sport of target shooting as

mentioned in section 45(1)(c)(iii), and the licence authorises

the licensee to possess and use a high calibre pistol, the

licence only authorises the licensee to possess and use a high

calibre pistol to engage in accredited events.

(c) has engaged in at least 3 handgun shooting

competitions, conducted on different days, during the

period mentioned in paragraph (b).

(2) Also, if the weapon is a high calibre pistol, the authorised

officer may issue the concealable firearms licence only if the

authorised officer is satisfied that the club mentioned in

subsection (1)(a) takes part in, or is affiliated with a body that

takes part in, accredited events.

57 Condition—membership of primary target shooting club

(1) It is a condition of the concealable firearms licence that the

licensee must be a member of the licensee’s primary target

shooting club.

( IS THIS PUT IN BY QAPSA)

58 Condition—membership of shooting association

(1) This section applies if—

(a) the holder of a concealable firearms licence participates

in a handgun shooting competition; and

(b) the participation requirements of the competition

require that a participant in the competition be a

member of a particular shooting association.

(2) It is a condition of the concealable firearms licence that the

licensee must be a member of that shooting association at the

time of participating in the competition.

279 Affiliation with shooting association

It is a condition of a target shooting club permit that the body

that is the holder of the permit must be affiliated with a

shooting association.

44 Things authorised by licence

(1) A concealable firearms licence authorises the licensee—

(a) if the licensee’s genuine reason for possession of the

weapon is a need mentioned in section 45(1)(c)(i) or

(ii)—to possess and use a category H weapon, of a type

or class stated on the licence, in the number stated on the

licence, to satisfy the need for which the licence was

issued; or

(b) if the licensee’s genuine reason for possession of the

weapon is to engage in the sport of target shooting as

mentioned in section 45(1)(c)(iii)—to possess and use

any prescribed category H weapon of a type or class

stated on the licence to engage in the sport of target

shooting at any place where the sport of target shooting

using prescribed category H weapons is lawfully

authorised to take place.

(2) However, if the licensee’s genuine reason for possession of

the weapon is to engage in the sport of target shooting as

mentioned in section 45(1)(c)(iii), and the licence authorises

the licensee to possess and use a high calibre pistol, the

licence only authorises the licensee to possess and use a high

calibre pistol to engage in accredited events.

(3) To remove any doubt, it is declared that a concealable firearms

licence does not authorise the licensee to possess or use a

weapon—

(a) for recreational shooting; or

(b) to engage in military simulation games.

Decide Means ?? Satisfied means??

47 Restrictions on issue

(1) The authorised officer may issue the concealable firearms

licence only if the authorised officer is satisfied that—

(a) the need can not be satisfied in another way; and

(b) the stated rural land is suitable for the use of the weapon

to satisfy the need; and

(c) the stated rural land is in Queensland, unless there are

exceptional circumstances; and

(d) using the weapon on the stated rural land to satisfy the

need will not adversely affect public or individual

safety.

(2) Without limiting subsection (1)(a), in deciding whether or not

the need can be satisfied in another way, the authorised officer

must consider whether the need can be satisfied—

(a) in a way that does not require the applicant to possess a

weapon; or

(b) in a way that requires the applicant to possess a different

type or category of weapon.

54 Restrictions on issue

(1) The authorised officer may issue the concealable firearms

licence only if the authorised officer is satisfied that the

applicant—

(a) is a member of an approved target shooting club that is

authorised to conduct the sport of target shooting using

prescribed category H weapons; and

(b) has been a member of the club for at least 6 months

immediately before making the application; and

(c) has engaged in at least 3 handgun shooting

competitions, conducted on different days, during the

period mentioned in paragraph (b).

(2) Also, if the weapon is a high calibre pistol, the authorised

officer may issue the concealable firearms licence only if the

authorised officer is satisfied that the club mentioned in

subsection (1)(a) takes part in, or is affiliated with a body that

takes part in, accredited events.

(3) This section is in addition to section 45.

60 Condition—prohibition of particular magazines

(1) It is a condition of the concealable firearms licence that the

licensee must not possess a detachable high-capacity

magazine that is able to be used in a category H weapon.

(2) In this section—

detachable high-capacity magazine—

(a) means a detachable magazine with a capacity of more

than 10 rounds; and

(b) includes part of a detachable magazine mentioned in

paragraph (a).

77 Condition—single business

It is a condition of a dealer’s licence that only the licensee

may conduct a business at the licensee’s business premises.

Example—

A licensed dealer may not share the licensee’s business premises with

another dealer.

What happens about holidays or off sick????

78 Condition—active conduct of business

(1) It is a condition of a dealer’s licence that the licensee must

actively conduct the business of dealer.

(2) A licensee is taken to have contravened the condition

mentioned in subsection (1) if the licensee does not, under

section 74, make an entry in the licensee’s transactions

register for a continuous period of 6 months.

(3) An authorised officer may extend the period mentioned in

subsection (2) if—

(a) the licensee applies to the authorised officer for an

extension before the end of the period mentioned in

subsection (2); and

(b) the authorised officer is satisfied there are exceptional

circumstances.

80 Condition—weapons must be labelled

(1) It is a condition of a dealer’s licence that the licensee must fix

a label, as provided under this section, to each weapon

possessed under the licence at the licensee’s business

premises.

(2) The label must—

(a) show a number that is capable of being used to identify

the record of any transaction involving the weapon that

is recorded in the licensee’s transactions register; and

(b) be fixed to the weapon or within 1 day after the weapon

is first possessed at the licensee’s business premises.

(3) If the weapon is in a box or other packaging, the label may be

fixed to the box or packaging.

(4) In this section—

weapon includes—

(a) an antique handgun; and

(b) a permanently deactivated category A, B or C weapon.

81 Condition—weapons must be able to be immediately

located

(1) It is a condition of a dealer’s licence that the licensee must

have a method for immediately locating—

(a) each weapon that is possessed under the licence at the

licensee’s business premises; and

(b) each entry made in the dealer’s transactions register

about a particular weapon.

(2) The method may include, for example, electronic records and

the labels mentioned in section 80.

(3) The method must be sufficient to enable the licensee, upon the

request of an authorised officer—

(a) to immediately produce to the officer a particular

weapon possessed under the licence at the licensee’s

business premises; and

(b) to immediately show the officer each entry made in the

dealer’s transactions register about a particular weapon.

(4) In this section—

weapon includes—

(a) an antique handgun; and

(b) a permanently deactivated category A, B or C weapon.

28 Condition—weapons must be able to be immediately

located

(1) It is a condition of an armourer’s licence that the licensee must

have a method for immediately locating—

(a) each weapon that is possessed under the licence at the

licensee’s business premises; and

(b) each entry made in the armourer’s transactions register

about a particular weapon.

(2) The method may include, for example, electronic records and

the labels mentioned in section 27.

(3) The method must be sufficient to enable the licensee, upon the

request of an authorised officer—

(a) to immediately produce to the officer a particular

weapon possessed under the licence at the licensee’s

business premises; and

(b) to immediately show the officer each entry made in the

armourer’s transactions register about a particular

weapon.

(4) In this section—

weapon includes—

(a) an antique handgun; and

(b) a permanently deactivated category A, B or C weapon.

(All Major Component Parts are defined as firearms so we must immediately produce a missing bolt or a missing magazine, or lose our licence.)

85 Restrictions on issue—generally

An authorised officer may issue a firearms licence only—

(a) for a category A, B, C or D weapon (the weapon); and

(b) to an adult (the applicant); and

(c) if the authorised officer is satisfied that the applicant’s

genuine reason for possession of the weapon is—

(i) a need to possess or use a category A or B weapon,

for an occupational rural purpose, in the conduct of

the applicant’s business or employment on stated

rural land; or

(ii) a need to possess or use a category C weapon, for

an occupational rural purpose, in the conduct of the

applicant’s business or employment on stated rural

land; or

(iii) a need to possess or use a category D weapon

87 Restrictions on issue

(1) The authorised officer may issue the firearms licence only if

the authorised officer is satisfied that—

(a) the need can not be satisfied in another way; and

(b) the stated rural land is suitable for the use of the weapon

to satisfy the need; and

(c) the stated rural land is in Queensland, unless there are

exceptional circumstances; and

(d) using the weapon on the stated rural land to satisfy the

need will not adversely affect public or individual

safety.

(2) Without limiting subsection (1)(a), in deciding whether or not

the need can be satisfied in another way, the authorised officer

must consider whether the need can be satisfied—

(a) in a way that does not require the applicant to possess a

weapon; or

(b) in a way that requires the applicant to possess a different

type or category of weapon.

(3) This section is in addition to section 85.

88 Additional information to accompany application

The application for the issue, or renewal, of the firearms

licence must be accompanied by—

(a) enough information about the need to possess the

weapon for the occupational rural purpose mentioned in

section 85(c)(i) to enable an authorised officer to decide

whether the need can be satisfied in another way; and

(b) enough information about the stated rural land to enable

an authorised officer to decide—

(i) whether the land is suitable for the use of the

weapon to satisfy the need mentioned in section

85(c)(i); and

(ii) whether using the weapon on the land to satisfy the

need will adversely affect public or individual

safety.

90 Restrictions on issue

(1) The authorised officer may issue the firearms licence only if

the authorised officer is satisfied that—

(a) the need can not be satisfied in another way; and

(3) Also, the authorised officer may issue the firearms licence for

more than 1 category C weapon only if the authorised officer

is satisfied that—

(a) the applicant has a need for more than 1 category C

weapon; and

(b) the need can not be satisfied in another way; and

(c) the stated rural land is suitable for the use of more than 1

category C weapon to satisfy the need; and

(d) using more than 1 category C weapon on the stated rural

land to satisfy the need will not adversely affect public

or individual safety.

106 Additional information to accompany application

The application for the issue, or renewal, of the firearms

licence must be accompanied by—

(a) 1 of the following—

(i) evidence of the applicant’s ownership of the stated

rural land;

(ii) written permission from the owner of the stated

rural land authorising the applicant to engage in

recreational shooting using category A or B

weapons on the land;

(iii) evidence of the applicant’s current membership of

a club mentioned in section 105(1)(a)(iii); and

(b) enough information about the location, area and

surrounding features of the stated rural land to enable an

authorised officer to decide—

(i) whether the land is suitable for the use of the

weapon to engage in recreational shooting; and

(ii) whether using the weapon on the land to engage in

recreational shooting will adversely affect public

or individual safety.

108 Restrictions on issue

(1) The authorised officer may issue the firearms licence only if

the authorised officer is satisfied that the applicant is a

member of—

(a) an approved target shooting club that is authorised to

conduct the sport of target shooting using category A or

B weapons; or

(b) a shooting association.

(2) This section is in addition to section 85.

110 Condition—membership of primary target shooting club

(1) It is a condition of the firearms licence that the licensee must

be a member of the licensee’s primary target shooting club.

(2) The licensee may change the licensee’s primary target

shooting club at any time by becoming a member of another

approved target shooting club that is authorised to conduct the

sport of target shooting using category A or B weapons, or

another shooting association (the new primary target

shooting club).

(3) However, the change does not take effect until the licensee

gives to each of the following a notice in the approved form of

the change—

(a) the new primary target shooting club;

(b) the previous primary target shooting club;

(c) an authorised officer.

113 Restrictions on issue

(1) The authorised officer may issue the firearms licence only if

the authorised officer is satisfied that—

(a) the applicant is a member of an approved target shooting

club that takes part in, or is affiliated with a body that

takes part in, clay target shooting competitions; and

(b) the applicant, because of a lack of strength or dexterity,

has a physical need for a category C shotgun to enable

the applicant to take part in the sport of target shooting.

(2) This section is in addition to section 85.

116 Condition—participation requirement

(1) This section applies if the licensee is the registered possessor

of a category C shotgun.

(2) It is a condition (participation condition) of the firearms

licence that the licensee must use a category C shotgun to

participate in at least 4 shoots in each financial year.

(3) For subsection (2)—

(a) at least 2 of the shoots must be clay target shooting

competitions; and

(b) each of the shoots must be conducted on a different day.

(4) This section is subject to sections 117, 118 and 119.

117 Condition—participation requirement if licensee has

owned weapon for less than 12 months but not less than

3 months in a financial year

(1) This section applies if the licensee is the registered possessor

of a category C shotgun for less than 12 months but not less

than 3 months in a particular financial year.

(2) The participation condition applies proportionately, based on

whole calendar months, for that financial year, after rounding

down to the nearest whole number of shoots.

118 Condition—participation requirement if licensee has

owned weapon for less than 3 months in a financial year

(1) This section applies if the licensee is the registered possessor

of a category C shotgun for less than 3 months in a particular

financial year.

(2) The participation condition does not apply for that financial

year.

119 Condition—participation requirement if licensee is

unable to satisfy condition

(1) This section applies if, for a particular financial year, the

licensee satisfies an authorised officer that the licensee is, or

was, unable to comply with the participation condition for the

year for reasons outside the licensee’s control.

(2) The authorised officer

may decide the number of times, if any,

that the licensee must use, or was required to use, a category C

shotgun in a shoot for the particular year to satisfy the

participation condition.

(3) A decision under subsection (2) may be made on a

proportionate basis, based on whole calendar months, having

regard to the period that the authorised officer is satisfied the

licensee is, or was, unable to comply with the participation

condition for reasons outside the licensee’s control.

120 Condition—requirement to keep participation record

(1) It is a condition of the firearms licence that the licensee must

keep a record of the licensee’s participation in shoots

(participation record).

(2) The participation record must contain the following

information for each shoot—

(a) the date and place of the shoot;

(b) the types of events in which the licensee participated;

(c) if the shoot is conducted at an approved range—the

name and licence number of the range officer

supervising the shoot;

(d) if the shoot is conducted at a place other than an

approved range—the name and the firearms licence

number or driver licence number of the person

supervising the shoot.

Examples of places other than an approved range—

• a Commonwealth approved range

• an interstate range approved under the law of another State

(3) The licensee must enter the information in the licensee’s

participation record immediately after the licensee’s

participation in the shoot has ended.

121 Condition—requirement to have participation record

endorsed as correct

(1) It is a condition of the firearms licence that the licensee must

have an entry in the licensee’s participation record endorsed

as correct by—

(a) if the shoot is conducted at an approved range—the

range officer supervising the shoot; or

(b) if the shoot is conducted at a place other than an

approved range—the person supervising the shoot.

(2) The endorsement under subsection (1) must—

(a) be made on the day of the shoot before the shoot ends;

and

(b) clearly identify the person making the endorsement.

(3) An entry properly endorsed under this section is evidence of

the licensee’s participation in the shoot.

122 Condition—requirement to give completed participation

record to primary target shooting club

(1) It is a condition of the firearms licence that the licensee must

give to an authorised officer the licensee’s completed

participation record for a financial year within 28 days after

the start of the following financial year.

(2) In this section—

completed participation record means a participation record

that complies with sections 120 and 121.

124 Restrictions on issue

(1) The authorised officer may issue the firearms licence only if

the authorised officer is satisfied that—

(a) the applicant is a member of an approved weapons club

that is authorised to conduct military simulation games

using paint-pellet guns; or

(b) the applicant intends to use a category A paint-pellet

gun to engage in military simulation games.

(2) This section is in addition to section 85

128 Restrictions on issue

An authorised officer may issue a firearms instructor’s licence

only—

(a) for a category A, B, C, D, E, H or M weapon (the

weapon); and

(b) to an adult (the applicant); and

(c) if the authorised officer is satisfied that—

(i) the applicant’s genuine reason for possession of

the weapon is to give instruction for either or both

of the following—

(A) an approved safety training course (general)

provided by an approved training provider;

(B) an approved safety training course (security

guard) provided by an approved training

provider; and

(ii) the applicant has the necessary skills and

experience to give the instruction; and

(iii) giving the instruction will not adversely affect

public or individual safety.

129 Additional information to accompany application

An application for the issue, or renewal, of a firearms

instructor’s licence must be accompanied by—

(a) evidence that the applicant has the necessary skills and

experience to give instruction for the relevant course

mentioned in section 128(c)(i); and

(b) evidence that giving the instruction will not adversely

affect public or individual safety; and

Examples of evidence of necessary skills and experience—

• details of current licences

• details of completed training courses

• details of experience handling weapons

• details of experience giving instruction

(c) the name of the approved training provider that will

provide the relevant course mentioned in section

128(c)(I).

131 Condition—regular instruction

(1) It is a condition of a firearms instructor’s licence that the

licensee must give regular instruction for a course mentioned

in section 128(c)(i).

(2) Without limiting subsection (1), a licensee is taken to have

contravened the condition mentioned in subsection (1) if the

licensee does not, under section 130, make an entry in the

licensee’s training register for a continuous period of 12

months.

132 Definitions for div 9

In this division—

category A weapon does not include a disguised category A

weapon.

category B weapon does not include a disguised category B

weapon.

From Draft Weapons Act

Section 178 Unlawful possession of weapon prohibited

(2) For subsection (1), a person who possesses a disguised

category A weapon or a disguised category B weapon is taken

to possess a category H weapon.

Definition

disguised category A weapon means a weapon mentioned in

the Weapons Categories Regulation 2010, section 4(1) or (3)

that is disguised as a thing other than a weapon.

Example—

a shotgun or rim-fire rifle disguised as a walking cane or a poacher’s

stick

disguised category B weapon means a weapon mentioned in

the Weapons Categories Regulation 2010, section 5(1) or (3)

that is disguised as a thing other than a weapon.

Example—

a centre-fire rifle disguised as a walking cane or a poacher’s stick

134 Restrictions on issue—generally

An authorised officer may issue a group licence only—

(a) for a prescribed weapon (the weapon); and

(b) to an adult or a body (the applicant); and

(c) if the authorised officer is satisfied that—

(i) for an adult, or a body other than a body mentioned

in subparagraph (ii) or (iii)—the applicant’s

genuine reason for possession of the weapon is a

group need; or

135 Restrictions on issue—group need mentioned in s 132,

def group need, paragraph (a)(i), (ii), (iii), (iv) or (vi)

(1) This section applies if the applicant’s genuine reason for

possession of the weapon is a need mentioned in section 132,

definition group need, paragraph (a)(i), (ii), (iii), (iv) or (vi).

(2) The authorised officer may issue the group licence only if the

authorised officer is satisfied that—

(a) the need can not be satisfied in another way; and

(b) the stated land, area, place or vessel is suitable for the

use of the weapon to satisfy the need; and

(c) using the weapon on the stated land, area, place or

vessel to satisfy the need will not adversely affect public

or individual safety.

(3) Without limiting subsection (2)(a), in deciding whether or not

the need can be satisfied in another way, the authorised officer

must consider whether the need can be satisfied—

(a) in a way that does not require the applicant to possess a

weapon; or

147 Restrictions on issue—generally

An authorised officer may issue a minor’s licence only—

(a) for a category A, B, C, or H weapon, or a category M

crossbow (the weapon); and

(b) to a minor who is at least 11 years (the applicant); and

(c) if the authorised officer is satisfied that the applicant’s

genuine reason for possession of the weapon is—

149 Restrictions on issue

(1) The authorised officer may issue the minor’s licence only if

the authorised officer is satisfied that—

(a) the need can not be satisfied in another way; and

(b) the stated rural land is suitable for the use of the weapon

to satisfy the need; and

150 Additional information to accompany application

The application for the issue, or renewal, of the minor’s

licence must be accompanied by—

(a) enough information about the need to possess the

weapon for the occupational rural purpose mentioned in

section 147(c)(i) to enable an authorised officer to

decide whether the need can be satisfied in another way;

and

152 Restrictions on issue

(1) The authorised officer may issue the minor’s licence only if

the authorised officer is satisfied that—

(a) the need can not be satisfied in another way; and

(b) the stated rural land is suitable for the use of the weapon

to satisfy the need; and

(2) Without limiting subsection (1)(a), in deciding whether or not

the need can be satisfied in another way, the authorised officer

must consider whether the need can be satisfied—

(a) in a way that does not require the applicant to possess a

weapon; or

(John Howard’s Bullet Proof Vest)

179 Application of sdiv 2

This subdivision applies if—

(a) the application is for the issue, or renewal, of a

miscellaneous weapons licence for a category E

weapon; and

(b) the applicant’s genuine reason for possession of the

weapon is—

(i) a special occupational need for the weapon as

mentioned in section 178(c)(i)(A); or

(ii) an exceptional need for the weapon for

self-preservation as mentioned in section

178(c)(i)(B).

180 Restrictions on issue

(1) The authorised officer may issue the miscellaneous weapons

licence only if the authorised officer is satisfied that the need

can not be satisfied in another way.

(2) Without limiting subsection (1), in deciding whether or not

the need can be satisfied in another way, the authorised officer

must consider whether the need can be satisfied in a way that

does not require the applicant to possess a category E weapon.

(3) This section is in addition to section 178.

181 Additional information to accompany application

The application for the issue, or renewal, of the miscellaneous

weapons licence must be accompanied by enough information

about the need for the weapon to enable an authorised officer

to decide whether the need can be satisfied in another way.

191 Application of sdiv 6

This subdivision applies if—

(a) the application is for the issue, or renewal, of a

miscellaneous weapons licence for a category M

crossbow; and

(b) the applicant’s genuine reason for possession of the

category M crossbow, under section 178(c)(ii)(D), is to

engage in the sport of target shooting.

192 Restrictions on issue

(1) The authorised officer may issue the licence only if the

authorised officer is satisfied that the applicant is—

(a) an approved target shooting club that is authorised to

conduct the sport of target shooting using category M

crossbows; or

217 Restrictions on issue

(1) An authorised officer may issue a theatrical ordnance

supplier’s licence only—

(a) for a prescribed weapon (the weapon); and

(b) to an adult or a body (the applicant); and

(c) if the authorised officer is satisfied that—

(i) the applicant’s genuine reason for possession of the

weapon is to conduct the business of theatrical

ordnance supplier; and

(ii) the business will be conducted in a way that will

not adversely affect public or individual safety; and

(iii) the premises from which the applicant will conduct

the business are suitable for conducting the

business of theatrical ordnance supplier; and

(iv) using the premises to conduct of the business of

theatrical ordnance supplier will not adversely

affect public or individual safety.

218 Additional information to accompany application

An application for the issue, or renewal, of a theatrical

ordnance supplier’s licence must be accompanied by—

(a) enough information about the business of theatrical

ordnance supplier to be conducted under the licence to

enable an authorised officer to decide whether the

business will be conducted in a way that adversely

affects public or individual safety; and

Examples of information about the business—

• business structure, for example, sole proprietorship,

partnership

• equipment to be used in the business

• intended client or market base

271 Condition—membership information

(1) It is a condition of a recreational shooting club permit that the

body that is the holder of the permit must give an authorised

officer a notice stating—

(a) when a member of the body stops being a member of the

body; or

(b) when a member of the body is expelled from the body

and the reason for the expulsion.

(2) The notice mentioned in subsection (1) must be given to the

authorised officer within 14 days after the day the member

stops being a member or is expelled.

(3) It is a condition of a recreational shooting club permit that the

body that is the holder of the permit must, upon the request of

an authorised officer, give the authorised officer a notice

stating whether a particular person is a member of the body or

holds a particular position within the body.

(4) The notice mentioned in subsection (3) must be given to the

authorised officer within a reasonable period, of at least 7

days, stated in the notice.

(5) An authorised officer may extend the period mentioned in

subsection (4) if—

(a) the body applies to the authorised officer for an

extension before the end of the period mentioned in

subsection (4); and

(b) the authorised officer is satisfied there are exceptional

circumstances.

272 Duties of body’s representative and members of

governing body

(1) This section applies to the body’s representative, and each

member of the governing body, of a body holding a

recreational shooting club permit.

(2) The person must take all reasonable steps to ensure the body,

its members and each person engaging in an activity

conducted by the body does not contravene a prescribed

provision.

Maximum penalty—20 penalty units.

(3) Subsection (2) does not apply if the person has given notice

under section 139(3) of the Act stating that the authority of the

person has stopped.

(4) In this section—

prescribed provision means—

(a) chapter 6, part 1, division 1 of the Act; or

(b) chapter 6, part 3 of the Act; or

(c) section 273.

273 Duties of person engaging in club activity

A person engaging in an activity conducted by an approved

recreational shooting club—

(a) must not possess or use a weapon for the activity unless

the possession or use complies with the recreational

shooting club permit; and

(b) must not use a weapon for the activity in a way that is

likely to cause death or injury to a person or unlawful

destruction or damage to property; and

(c) must comply with a safety direction given by the body’s

representative, or a member of the governing body, of

the body that holds the recreational shooting club

permit, unless the person has a reasonable excuse.

Maximum penalty—20 penalty units.

281 Adequate supervision

(1) It is a condition of a target shooting club permit that the body

that is the holder of the permit must take reasonable steps to

ensure that each person using a prescribed weapon to engage

in the sport of target shooting conducted by the body is

adequately supervised by—

(a) a range officer appointed by the body under subsection

(2); or

(b) a range officer’s appointee appointed by the range

officer under subsection (2).

(2) A person appointed as a range officer or range officer’s

appointee must be—

(a) an adult; and

b) hold a licence, or an interstate licence, for a firearm; and

(c) have the necessary skills and experience to take primary

responsibility for the supervision of persons using a

prescribed weapon at the shooting range.

(3) In this section—

adequately supervise, persons engaging in the sport of target

shooting conducted by an approved target shooting club,

means take all reasonable steps to ensure the personal safety

of the persons and any other persons also engaging in the

sport of target shooting.

Subdivision 4 Duties

288 Body’s representative and members of governing body

(1) This section applies to the body’s representative, and each

member of the governing body, of a body holding a target

shooting club permit.

(2) The person must take all reasonable steps to ensure the body,

its members and each person engaging in an activity

conducted by the body does not contravene a prescribed

provision.

Maximum penalty—20 penalty units.

(3) Subsection (2) does not apply if the person has given notice

under section 139(3) of the Act stating that the authority of the

person has stopped.

(4) In this section—

prescribed provision means—

325 Record of maintenance

(1) It is a condition of a shooting range permit that the holder

must keep a record of the maintenance carried out on the

safety infrastructure of the shooting range, as provided under

this section.

(2) The record of maintenance must state—

(a) the date the maintenance was carried out; and

(b) a brief description of the maintenance carried out.

(3) The holder must, before 31 August in each year, give a copy

of the record, to the extent that it relates to maintenance

carried out in the immediately preceding financial year, to an

authorised officer.

(4) An authorised officer may extend the time limit mentioned in

subsection (3) if the authorised officer is satisfied there are

exceptional circumstances.

(5) In this section—

safety infrastructure, of a shooting range, includes, for

example, the baffles, mound, stop butt and retaining walls of

the range.

326 Informing police officer of injury or damage

(1) It is a condition of a shooting range permit that the holder

must inform a police officer of any—

(a) injury to a person caused by a weapon used at the range;

or

(b) damage to property at or in the vicinity of the range

caused by a weapon used at the range, other than

damage to a target or a thing designed as a bullet barrier.

(2) The holder must inform the police officer of the matters

mentioned in subsection (1) immediately after the holder, or if

the holder is a body, the body’s representative, first becomes

aware, or suspects, that the injury or damage has happened.

Subdivision 3 Duties

327 Body’s representative and members of governing body

(1) This section applies to the body’s representative, and each

member of the governing body, of a body holding a shooting

range permit.

(2) The person must take all reasonable steps to ensure the body,

its members, and each person attending the approved range

does not contravene a prescribed provision.

Maximum penalty—20 penalty units.

(3) Subsection (2) does not apply if the person has given notice

under section 139(3) of the Act stating that the authority of the

person has stopped.

(4) In this section—

prescribed provision means—

(a) chapter 6, part 1, division 1 of the Act; or

(b) chapter 6, part 3 of the Act; or

(c) a condition under subdivision 2; or

(d) section 328 or 329.

General

1 Methods

(1) A firearm may be modified to make it permanently incapable

of being discharged by—

(a) fusion welding under part 2; or

(b) sectioning under part 3.

(2) However, a firearm made of light alloy or plastic may only be

modified to make it permanently incapable of being

discharged by sectioning under part 3.

2 Purpose

(1) The purpose of fusion welding is to weld material into the

barrel of a firearm, and to weld all major parts of the firearm

in a way that can not be reversed.

(2) The purpose of sectioning is to machine or mill all major parts

of a firearm in a way that can not be reversed and to expose

the internal mechanism of the firearm to enable it to be used

for display or instructional purposes.

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Weapons Regulation 2010

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Part 2 Fusion welding

3 Bolt action rifle

A bolt action rifle may be modified to make it permanently

incapable of being discharged by doing all of the following—

(a) boring a calibre size hole in the chamber;

(b) inserting a close fitting steel rod in the barrel and

welding at the muzzle and breech;

(c) completely breaking off, grinding off or removing the

firing pin;

(d) welding the trigger to the receiver;

(e) welding the bolt to the receiver either—

(i) through the magazine well or the ejection port; or

(ii) along the exposed surface of the bolt for at least 80

per cent of the bolt’s length;

(f) cutting off the magazine lips and removing the spring

and follower;

(g) if the rifle has a quick detachable barrel—welding the

barrel to the receiver;

(h) if the rifle has a tube type magazine—cutting off the

crimped end of the guide, if any, and removing the

spring and follower.

7 Muzzle loading rifle

A muzzle loading rifle may be modified to make it

permanently incapable of being discharged by doing all of the

following—

(a) boring a calibre size hole in the chamber;

(b) inserting a close fitting steel rod in the barrel and

welding at the muzzle;

(c) welding the flash hole closed;

(d) welding the trigger to the receiver;

(e) welding the hammer to the receiver.

8 Single or double barrel shotgun

A single or double barrel shotgun may be modified to make it

permanently incapable of being discharged by doing all of the

following—

(a) boring a hole, approximately 60 per cent of the bore

size, just forward of the chamber (or chambers);

(b) inserting a close fitting steel plug of the length of the

chamber in the chamber (or chambers) and welding at

the breech;

(c) completely breaking off, grinding off or removing the

firing pins, or welding them to the receiver;

(d) welding the trigger to the receiver;

(e) welding the breech lever to the receiver;

(f) welding the barrel or the barrel lug, with a substantial

weld, to the receiver to prevent the barrel opening;

(g) if the shotgun has exposed hammers—welding the

hammers to the side plates or the receiver.

Help Stop Tyranny Now.

This Legislation produces a hunting ground for the Queensland Police to prey and harass, RSL Clubs, Historical Societies (Museums) that display valuable collectors items in glass cases, that already comply with security measurer’s in place for their collectors licences. That already have to render these artifacts temporary inoperable. The new act ensures they have the relevance of a boat anchor, yet still locked in a steel safe in a security room.

The hunting ground also includes Target Shooters, of all classes, Collectors, Firearm Dealers, Armours, Re-en actors, Security Guards, Theatrical suppliers, and Farmers.

All the law abiding citizens of Queensland who have the misfortune to be involved with the Weapons Act. The Firearms Act of 1979 had 29 pages and it was not replaced until the Weapons Act of 1990, if this is passed into law it will encompass 642 pages of the Act and Regulations and this interlinks with the Police Power and (No) Responsibilities Act and the Police Services Act and the Explosive Act, an all encompassing nightmare of innuendo and nit picking power trips for the Queensland Police.

The ‘authorised officer’ is given more power than a South American Tin Pot Dictator, he ‘decides’, when he is ‘satisfied’, leads to miss uses of power that the Fitzgerald Commission was supposed to remedy. In 1901 in Australia’s first parliament Sir William Mc Millan crossed the floor to vote with Labour on the White Australia Bill, not because he or Labour opposed the ‘The White Australia Bill but because as Mc Millan put it, “Established power by interpretation to alter the substance of legislation…”, as it “produced bad law and faulty administration”.
The people vote politicians into power and expect them to do the job and not delegate the power to a policeman. The enforcer. It is contrary to all tenets of the separation of power. If parliament wishes to remove our rights, it has to do it certainly not just leave us at the mercy of a policeman’s conscience.

This legislation will have the Police targeting the Law Abiding, (historically the most qualified, the best behaved section of our community, who lose everything if they have a conviction for anything) while taking the work pressure off all the Criminal elements in our society. This legislation will turn more guns into scrap than efforts of that evil gnome, ‘John Howard’. This time we pay dearly not Medibank, we pay the Queensland Police to do it to us.

For years Firearm Owners have been baited and trapped like the ‘Jews of Europe’, just waiting for the QPS ‘stormtroopers’, to pound on the door at 5 am in the morning, now we wait for them to introduce their ‘Final Solution’ which is our eradication.

If you do not want to feel like grounded fly waiting for the Mortien Spray, or a sheep in the Abattoir race, or a Jew waiting for the Final Solution get a bit of back bone and do something. Now.

Please click on the links and download the Draft Act and Draft Regulations and read them both pick out the sections that you disagree with and include (cut and paste ) a copy with your explanation in your submission sending it to the Queensland Police Minister, or every Queensland State politician, just click the links or send to every State Minister or every Shadow Minister. If you can use a computer to send an email you can do something to stop this tyranny.

Public submissions close September 14. 2010. So do it now.

Please write and email, use the power of the computer to send your personal letter to the politicians, use the links below to send to as many Queensland politicians as possible.

Weapons Act Review Secretariat: Click here to e-mail the Weapons Act Review Secretariat

Weapons Secretariat Postal Address
The Secretariat
Weapons Act Review
Level 2, Tourism House
30 Makerston Street
GPO Box 1440
BRISBANE QLD 4001

Make sure you always include your name and address. That way you will be taken seriously.

QLD Gov Ministers: Click here to e-mail all Gov Ministers

QLD Shadow Gov Ministers: Click here to e-mail all Shadow Gov Ministers

Draft of the Weapons Bill 2010 ( 879 KB) and the Draft Weapons Regulation 2010 ( 891 KB)

It does not affect the Police and it does not affect the Crims, only You the Firearm Owner will be the VICTIMS.

If you don’t want to read the above Draft Legislation just cut and paste from the excerpts below and send your offence as a submission.

The Daft Act 2010

ammunition see the Explosives Act 1999 , schedule 2.

The Objects to Limit Law Abiding Shooters.

2 Categorising weapons

Prescribing categories of weapons, and things to be within a

particular category of weapon.

3 Limiting or prohibiting licensing of particular weapons

Limiting or prohibiting licensing of particular weapons or

particular types or categories of weapons.

4 Limiting or prohibiting acquisition, possession or use of

weapons and regulated items

Limiting or prohibiting the acquisition, possession or use of

particular weapons or regulated items or particular types or

categories of weapons or regulated items.

5 Limiting or prohibiting activities involving weapons

Limiting or prohibiting particular activities involving

weapons or particular types or categories of weapons.

7 Category D weapons

(1) Each of the following is a category D weapon—

(a) a self-loading centre-fire rifle;

(b) a firearm that substantially duplicates a self-loading

centre-fire rifle in appearance, design or function;

(c) a self-loading shotgun with a magazine capacity of more

than 5 rounds;

(d) a pump action shotgun with a magazine capacity of

more than 5 rounds;

(e) a self-loading rim-fire rifle with a magazine capacity of

more than 10 rounds.

(2) Subsection (1) applies to a weapon mentioned in the

subsection even if the weapon is permanently deactivated.

(3) A major component part of a weapon mentioned in subsection

(1) is a category D weapon.

(4) An imitation of a weapon mentioned in subsection (1) is a

category D weapon.

284 Declaration of weapons category by commissioner

(1) The commissioner may, by gazette notice, declare a

dangerous thing that is not categorised in the Weapons

Categories Regulation 2010 to be within a particular category

of weapon.

(2) In deciding whether to make a declaration under subsection

(1), the commissioner must have regard to—

(a) whether the thing has been designed for military

purposes; and

(b) the category of weapon the thing most closely

resembles; and

(c) the need to ensure public and individual safety.

(3) A declaration under subsection (1)—

(a) takes effect on the day (the day of effect) that is 3 days

after the day it is published in the gazette or on the later

day stated in the declaration; and

(b) ends on the day that is 6 months after the day of effect;

and

(c) may not be made in relation to a thing that has been the

subject of a previous declaration under this section.

(4) The commissioner must notify each person, whom the

commissioner is aware is in possession of a thing to which a

declaration under subsection (1) applies, of the declaration.

(5) If the commissioner declares a thing to be within a particular

category of weapon under subsection (1), the thing is, for the

purposes of this Act, taken to be within that category only.

(6) In any proceeding for an offence under this Act in relation to a

thing that is declared under subsection (1) to be within a

particular category, it is a defence to a charge in relation to

possession of a thing as being of a particular category that the

person has not been notified by the commissioner under

subsection (4) of the declaration.

Chapter 9 Miscellaneous

Part 2 Declarations, statements and exclusion notices

Page 221

(7) No compensation is payable by the State because of a

declaration under this section.

(8) In this section—

dangerous thing means—

(a) a firearm; or

(b) a thing ordinarily described as a weapon that is capable

of causing death or injury.

POWER OF Search

The Daft Bill

Page 296

Police Powers and Responsibilities Act 2000

1 Sections 25(1), 714(1)(a) and 715(a), ‘Weapons Act

1990’—

omit, insert—

‘Weapons Act 2010’.

2 Section 159(c), 4th dot point, after ‘1990’—

insert—

‘or Weapons Act 2010’.

To page 302.

“Which then gives the power.”

Police Powers and Responsibilities Act 2000

Chapter 2 General enforcement powers

Part 1 Entry, inquiries and inspection

22 Power to enter etc. for relevant laws

(1) For ensuring compliance with a relevant law, a police officer

may do any of the following—

(a) at any reasonable time, enter and stay on a place used

for a purpose under a licence under the relevant law;

(b) inspect, photograph or copy a prescribed item there or at

a place with appropriate facilities for photographing or

copying the item;

(c) seize a thing to which the relevant law applies, if the

thing is evidence of the commission of an offence

against the relevant law or another Act;

(d) require a licence holder or someone else apparently in

possession of prescribed items to produce stated

prescribed items for inspection;

(e) inspect security measures a person must maintain under

the relevant law;

(f) require a licence holder or person apparently in

possession or in charge of the place to give to the police

officer reasonable help to do something mentioned in

paragraph (b) or (e).

(2) A police officer may enter a part of a place not used for the

purpose for which entry is made, but only to get to the place

used for the purpose.

relevant law, means an Act under which a person or place

must be licensed, and prescribed under a regulation for

chapter 2, part 1.

159 Application of pt 2

This part applies only in relation to the following offences (a

part 2 offence)—

(a) an indictable offence;

(b) an offence involving gaming or betting;

(c) an offence against any of the following Acts—

• Confiscation Act

• Explosives Act 1999

• Nature Conservation Act 1992

• Weapons Act 1990;

(d) an offence against the Liquor Act 1992, section 168B or

168C.

25 Power to demand production of licence etc. for weapons

(1) This section applies if a person is required under the Weapons

Act 1990—

(a) to be the holder of a licence or permit to acquire under

that Act; or

(b) to have the approval of any person; or

30 Prescribed circumstances for searching persons without

warrant

The prescribed circumstances for searching a person without a

warrant are as follows—

(a) the person has something that may be—

(i) a weapon, knife or explosive the person may not

lawfully possess,

32 Prescribed circumstances for searching vehicle without

warrant

The prescribed circumstances for searching a vehicle without

a warrant are that there is something in the vehicle that—

may be a weapon or explosive a person may not lawfully

possess,

Security Over Kill

165 Secure storage facilities at safe storage address

(1) The entity must—

(a) store the weapon unloaded in secure storage facilities

for the weapon at the safe storage address for the

weapon; and

(b) if the weapon is stored in secure storage facilities

mentioned in section 162, paragraph (b) or

(c)(i)—ensure the weapon is temporarily deactivated;

166 Container in locked room

(1) If the entity is unable to comply with section 165, the entity

must—

(a) store the weapon unloaded and temporarily deactivated

in a securely closed container; and

(b) take reasonable precautions to ensure the weapon is not

accessible to persons who are not lawfully authorised to

possess the weapon.

Maximum penalty—100 penalty units or 2 years

imprisonment.

13 When a firearm is temporarily deactivated

(1) A firearm is temporarily deactivated if it is modified in the

way prescribed under a regulation to make it temporarily

incapable of being discharged.

(2) A regulation made under subsection (1) may prescribe a way

approved by an authorised officer.

167 Vehicle

(1) If the entity is unable to comply with section 165 and section

166, the entity must store the weapon unloaded and

temporarily deactivated—

(a) in the locked boot of a vehicle; or

(b) in a locked metal container fixed to a vehicle; or

(c) in a securely closed container that is out of sight in a

vehicle.

Maximum penalty—100 penalty units or 2 years

imprisonment.

(2) The metal container mentioned in subsection (1)(b), and

anything on or attached to it, must not suggest a weapon is

inside.

171 Particular parts of firearms

(1) This part applies to an entity that possesses a prescribed part

of a firearm if—

(a) for an entity that is an individual—the prescribed part of

the firearm is not in the physical possession of the

individual; or

(b) for an entity that is a body—the prescribed part of the

firearm is not in the physical possession of the body’s

representative.

(2) The entity must take reasonable precautions to ensure the

prescribed part is not accessible to persons who are not

lawfully authorised to possess the prescribed part.

Examples of taking reasonable precautions——

• placing the prescribed part in a locked container

• placing the prescribed part in a locked room

Maximum penalty—10 penalty units

(3) In this section—

prescribed part, of a firearm, means the barrel, or breech

block or bolt, of the firearm that is not part of a complete

firearm.

7 Meaning of category of weapon

(1) A category of weapon is a category of weapon prescribed

under a regulation.

Note—

See the Weapons Categories Regulation 2010.

(2) A regulation may prescribe a particular firearm to be within a

category of weapon.

Note—

The category of weapon within which a particular firearm is prescribed

impacts on, for example, the type of licence that may be held for the

firearm, the storage obligations under chapter 5 for the firearm, and the

penalty under section 178 for unlawful possession of the firearm.

169 Multiple weapons

(1) This section applies to an entity that possesses a weapon at a

place where there are more than 30 weapons, whether or not

the entity possesses each or any of the other weapons, if—

(a) for an entity that is an individual—the weapon is not in

the physical possession of the individual; or

(b) for an entity that is a body—the weapon is not in the

physical possession of the body’s representative.

(2) The entity must—

(a) store the weapon unloaded and temporarily deactivated

in a secure storeroom or a secure vault; and

(b) take reasonable precautions to ensure the weapon is not

accessible to persons who are not lawfully authorised to

possess the weapon.

Maximum penalty—100 penalty units or 2 years

imprisonment.

Part 3 Verification of particulars

157 Production of weapon to establish or verify particulars of

weapon

(1) This section applies to a person in possession of a weapon.

(2) A member of the police service may require the person to

produce the weapon to an authorised officer at a stated time

and place to establish or verify any of the following

particulars of the weapon—

(a) the action, calibre, category, make, model or type of the

weapon;

11 Meaning of imitation

(1) An imitation, of a weapon, is a thing that—

(a) is a reasonable copy of the weapon; and

(b) is not capable of causing death or injury by discharging

a projectile, or a thing mentioned in section 8(1)(b)(ii);

and

(c) could reasonably be taken to be the weapon.

Note—

A regulation made under section 6(1)(b) may prescribe an imitation of a

weapon to be within a category of weapon. An imitation of a category

A, B, C or M weapon is a regulated item—see section 240(c).

(2) An imitation, of a crossbow, longbow or spear gun, is a thing

that—

(a) is a reasonable copy of a crossbow, longbow or spear

gun; and

(b) is not capable of causing death or injury by discharging

a projectile, or a thing mentioned in section 8(1)(b)(ii);

and

(c) could reasonably be taken to be a crossbow, longbow or

379 Registration of antique handguns

(1) This section applies if, at the commencement, a person

possesses an antique handgun.

(2) For the purposes of section 244 of the new Act, the person is

taken to have acquired the antique handgun on the day of the

commencement.

380 Registration of permanently deactivated category A, B or

C weapons

(1) This section applies if, at the commencement, a person

possesses a permanently deactivated category A, B or C

weapon.

(2) For the purposes of section 253 of the new Act, the person is

taken to have acquired the permanently deactivated category

A, B or C weapon on the day of the commencement.

Schedule 2 Subject matter for regulations

section 325

1 Authorising things under licence or permit

Providing for things that the holder of a licence or permit, or

any other person, including, for example, an unlicensed

person, may or may not do under the authority of a licence or

permit.

NO APPEAL To Magistrates Court.

Tribunal has no Rule of evidence, no judge, no discovery , Very little area able to review.

Chapter 8 Reviews

279 Who may apply for review

(1) A person whose interests are affected by a reviewable

decision may apply, as provided under the QCAT Act, to

QCAT for a review of the decision.

(2) For this section, a person who has been given or is entitled to

be given a QCAT information notice about a decision is taken

to be a person whose interests are affected by the decision.

(3) In this section—

reviewable decision means—

(a) a decision mentioned in schedule 1; or

(b) a decision prescribed under a regulation for the purpose

of this paragraph.

280 Stay of operation of decision

(1) An application to QCAT for a review of a decision does not

stay the decision.

(2) However, the applicant may apply, as provided under the

QCAT Act, to QCAT for a stay of the decision if, and only

if—

(a) the applicant is unable to satisfy an occupational

requirement because of the decision; or

(b) the applicant is unable to conduct a business because of

the decision.

(3) QCAT may grant the stay on conditions it considers

appropriate.

(4) An application to QCAT for a review of a decision affects the

decision, or carrying out of a decision, only if the decision is

stayed

Schedule 1 Reviewable decisions

section 279(1)

Section Description of decision

Licences

33 refusal to issue licence

37 refusal to renew licence

55 refusal to approve transfer of weapon to another licence

61 refusal to amend licence

62 decision to amend licence

65 decision to suspend licence

66 decision to cancel licence

85 decision to give notice to dispose

87 refusal to replace licence

Permits

104 refusal to issue permit

107 refusal to renew permit

131 refusal to amend permit

132 decision to amend permit

135 decision to suspend permit

136 decision to cancel permit

144 refusal to replace permit

Disguised Category??????

178 Unlawful possession of weapon prohibited

(1) A person must not unlawfully possess a weapon.

Examples of lawful possession of a weapon—

• possession under a licence

• possession by a person to whom this Act does not apply under

section 15

• possession by a person under an exemption granted under section

19

• possession by an unlicensed person under division 2

Maximum penalty—

(a) for an excluded person—

(i) if the person unlawfully possesses 10 or more

weapons at least 5 of which are category D, E, H or

R weapons—15 years imprisonment; or

(ii) if subparagraph (i) does not apply and the person

unlawfully possesses 10 or more weapons—600

penalty units or 12 years imprisonment; or

(iii) if subparagraphs (i) and (ii) do not apply—

(A) for a category D, H or R weapon—400

penalty units or 9 years imprisonment; or

(B) for a category C or E weapon—300 penalty

units or 6 years imprisonment; or

(C) for a category A, B or M weapon, or an

uncategorised firearm—200 penalty units or

4 years imprisonment; or

(b) otherwise—

(i) if the person unlawfully possesses 10 or more

weapons at least 5 of which are category D, E, H or

R weapons—13 years imprisonment; or

(ii) if subparagraph (i) does not apply and the person

unlawfully possesses 10 or more weapons—500

penalty units or 10 years imprisonment; or

(iii) if subparagraphs (i) and (ii) do not apply—

(A) for a category D, H or R weapon—300

penalty units or 7 years imprisonment; or

(B) for a category C or E weapon—200 penalty

units or 4 years imprisonment; or

(C) for a category A, B or M weapon, or an

uncategorised firearm—100 penalty units or

2 years imprisonment.

(2) For subsection (1), a person who possesses a disguised

category A weapon or a disguised category B weapon is taken

to possess a category H weapon.

(3) If the maximum penalty otherwise applying for an offence

against subsection (1) would be that mentioned in paragraph

(a)(iii) or (b)(iii) of the penalty (the relevant provision), and

the weapon is an imitation of a weapon, a permanently

deactivated firearm or an heirloom weapon, the maximum

penalty for the offence is half of the maximum penalty

mentioned in the relevant provision.

(4) A court, in sentencing a person convicted of an offence

against subsection (1), may take into consideration whether

the person stored the weapon in secure storage facilities for

the weapon.

(5) In this section—

179 Effect of licensee’s failure to enter particulars in register

(1) This section applies to a licensee who is required, under this

Act, to keep a register in relation to weapons.

(2) If the licensee, without reasonable excuse, possesses a

weapon the prescribed particulars of which have not been

entered in the register as required under this Act, the licensee

is taken to unlawfully possess the weapon and may be

prosecuted and punished under section 178 for the possession.

Possession

180 Possession by licensee of unregistered firearm, prescribed part or conversion unit prohibited

(1) A licensee must not possess a firearm unless the firearm is a

registered weapon.

Maximum penalty—120 penalty units.

(2) A licensee must not possess a prescribed part of a firearm

unless the prescribed part is, or is part of, a registered weapon.

Maximum penalty—120 penalty units.

(3) A licensee must not possess a conversion unit unless the

conversion unit is a registered weapon.

Maximum penalty—120 penalty units.

(4) A licensed dealer or licensed armourer does not contravene

subsection (1), (2) or (3) if the firearm, prescribed part or

conversion unit is entered in a register kept by the dealer or

armourer as required under a regulation.

(5) In subsection (1), the reference to firearm does not include a

reference to a major component part of a firearm.

(6) In this section—

(a) means a thing mentioned in the Weapons Categories

Regulation 2010, section 4(4), 5(4) or 9(5); and

(b) includes part of a thing mentioned in paragraph (a).

Part 4 Offences involving the acquisition and disposal of weapons

Division 1 Acquisition and disposal

192 Definition for div 1

In this part—

weapon, if the weapon is a firearm, does not include a major

component part of the firearm, other than the action, body,

frame or receiver of the firearm.

Notes—

1 The barrel, breech block or bolt, or top slide of a firearm is not a

weapon for the purpose of this division.

2 Under section 6(1)(b) and the Weapons Categories Regulation

2010, sections 4(4), 5(4) and 9(5), a conversion unit for a category

A, B or H weapon is also a weapon.

171 Particular parts of firearms

(1) This part applies to an entity that possesses a prescribed part

of a firearm if—

(a) for an entity that is an individual—the prescribed part of

the firearm is not in the physical possession of the

individual; or

(b) for an entity that is a body—the prescribed part of the

firearm is not in the physical possession of the body’s

representative.

(2) The entity must take reasonable precautions to ensure the

prescribed part is not accessible to persons who are not

lawfully authorised to possess the prescribed part.

Examples of taking reasonable precautions——

• placing the prescribed part in a locked container

• placing the prescribed part in a locked room

Maximum penalty—10 penalty units

(3) In this section—

prescribed part, of a firearm, means the barrel, or breech

block or bolt, of the firearm that is not part of a complete

firearm.

207 Licensed armourer must employ qualified weapons

employee

A licensed armourer must not employ a person who, in the

course of the person’s employment, will have access to a

weapon unless the person is a qualified weapons employee.

Maximum penalty—100 penalty units.

Regulated items

Part 1 Preliminary

239 Purpose of ch 7

The purpose of this chapter is to improve public and

individual safety in relation to regulated items by—

(a) requiring the registration of particular regulated items;

and

(b) prohibiting or limiting the acquisition and possession of

regulated items; and

(c) imposing requirements about the safe storage and

handling of regulated items; and

(d) prohibiting the unlawful supply of, or trafficking in,

regulated items.

240 Meaning of regulated item

A regulated item is—

(a) an antique handgun; or

(b) a permanently deactivated category A, B or C weapon;

or

(c) an imitation of a category A, B, C or M weapon; or

(d) an adjustable stock; or

(e) a detachable magazine; or

(f) a laser pointer; or

(g) a restricted article.

6 Shooting associations

295 Notice of expelled members

(1) A shooting association must give an authorised officer a

notice stating—

(a) when a member of the association is expelled from the

association;

(b) the name and licence number, if any, of the member; and

(c) the reason for the expulsion.

Maximum penalty—60 penalty units.

(2) The notice mentioned in subsection (1) must be given to an

authorised officer within 14 days after the day the member is

expelled.

(3) This section applies despite any duty of confidentiality owed

by the shooting association, or a representative of the shooting

association, or a member of the governing body of the

shooting association, to the member.

(4) The giving of information by the shooting association under

this section does not give rise to any criminal or civil action or

remedy against the shooting association, or a representative of

the shooting association, or a member of the governing body

of the shooting association.

296 Request for information about members

(1) An authorised officer may, by notice given to a shooting

association, request the association to give the authorised

officer the following information—

(a) whether a particular person is or was a member of the

association;

(b) the particulars of a person who holds or held a particular

stated position within the association.

Excerpts from The Daft Regulation,

Secure safes

10 Safes

(1) The safe must be in a room of a permanent building.

(2) The room must always be locked (other than the time

necessary to have the room open for a proper purpose).

(3) The safe must be made of steel and—

(a) weigh at least 150kg; or

(b) be fixed to the permanent building by welding or

hardened steel bolts of at least 10mm in diameter

Schedule 6.

handgun shooting competition

handgun shooting competition means a national or

international shooting competition, that includes using a

prescribed category H weapon, at a place where the sport of

target shooting using a category H weapon is lawfully

authorised to take place.

(2) However, if the licensee’s genuine reason for possession of

the weapon is to engage in the sport of target shooting as

mentioned in section 45(1)(c)(iii), and the licence authorises

the licensee to possess and use a high calibre pistol, the

licence only authorises the licensee to possess and use a high

calibre pistol to engage in accredited events.

(c) has engaged in at least 3 handgun shooting

competitions, conducted on different days, during the

period mentioned in paragraph (b).

(2) Also, if the weapon is a high calibre pistol, the authorised

officer may issue the concealable firearms licence only if the

authorised officer is satisfied that the club mentioned in

subsection (1)(a) takes part in, or is affiliated with a body that

takes part in, accredited events.

57 Condition—membership of primary target shooting club

(1) It is a condition of the concealable firearms licence that the

licensee must be a member of the licensee’s primary target

shooting club.

( IS THIS PUT IN BY QAPSA)

58 Condition—membership of shooting association

(1) This section applies if—

(a) the holder of a concealable firearms licence participates

in a handgun shooting competition; and

(b) the participation requirements of the competition

require that a participant in the competition be a

member of a particular shooting association.

(2) It is a condition of the concealable firearms licence that the

licensee must be a member of that shooting association at the

time of participating in the competition.

279 Affiliation with shooting association

It is a condition of a target shooting club permit that the body

that is the holder of the permit must be affiliated with a

shooting association.

44 Things authorised by licence

(1) A concealable firearms licence authorises the licensee—

(a) if the licensee’s genuine reason for possession of the

weapon is a need mentioned in section 45(1)(c)(i) or

(ii)—to possess and use a category H weapon, of a type

or class stated on the licence, in the number stated on the

licence, to satisfy the need for which the licence was

issued; or

(b) if the licensee’s genuine reason for possession of the

weapon is to engage in the sport of target shooting as

mentioned in section 45(1)(c)(iii)—to possess and use

any prescribed category H weapon of a type or class

stated on the licence to engage in the sport of target

shooting at any place where the sport of target shooting

using prescribed category H weapons is lawfully

authorised to take place.

(2) However, if the licensee’s genuine reason for possession of

the weapon is to engage in the sport of target shooting as

mentioned in section 45(1)(c)(iii), and the licence authorises

the licensee to possess and use a high calibre pistol, the

licence only authorises the licensee to possess and use a high

calibre pistol to engage in accredited events.

(3) To remove any doubt, it is declared that a concealable firearms

licence does not authorise the licensee to possess or use a

weapon—

(a) for recreational shooting; or

(b) to engage in military simulation games.

Decide Means ?? Satisfied means??

47 Restrictions on issue

(1) The authorised officer may issue the concealable firearms

licence only if the authorised officer is satisfied that—

(a) the need can not be satisfied in another way; and

(b) the stated rural land is suitable for the use of the weapon

to satisfy the need; and

(c) the stated rural land is in Queensland, unless there are

exceptional circumstances; and

(d) using the weapon on the stated rural land to satisfy the

need will not adversely affect public or individual

safety.

(2) Without limiting subsection (1)(a), in deciding whether or not

the need can be satisfied in another way, the authorised officer

must consider whether the need can be satisfied—

(a) in a way that does not require the applicant to possess a

weapon; or

(b) in a way that requires the applicant to possess a different

type or category of weapon.

54 Restrictions on issue

(1) The authorised officer may issue the concealable firearms

licence only if the authorised officer is satisfied that the

applicant—

(a) is a member of an approved target shooting club that is

authorised to conduct the sport of target shooting using

prescribed category H weapons; and

(b) has been a member of the club for at least 6 months

immediately before making the application; and

(c) has engaged in at least 3 handgun shooting

competitions, conducted on different days, during the

period mentioned in paragraph (b).

(2) Also, if the weapon is a high calibre pistol, the authorised

officer may issue the concealable firearms licence only if the

authorised officer is satisfied that the club mentioned in

subsection (1)(a) takes part in, or is affiliated with a body that

takes part in, accredited events.

(3) This section is in addition to section 45.

60 Condition—prohibition of particular magazines

(1) It is a condition of the concealable firearms licence that the

licensee must not possess a detachable high-capacity

magazine that is able to be used in a category H weapon.

(2) In this section—

detachable high-capacity magazine—

(a) means a detachable magazine with a capacity of more

than 10 rounds; and

(b) includes part of a detachable magazine mentioned in

paragraph (a).

77 Condition—single business

It is a condition of a dealer’s licence that only the licensee

may conduct a business at the licensee’s business premises.

Example—

A licensed dealer may not share the licensee’s business premises with

another dealer.

What happens about holidays or off sick????

78 Condition—active conduct of business

(1) It is a condition of a dealer’s licence that the licensee must

actively conduct the business of dealer.

(2) A licensee is taken to have contravened the condition

mentioned in subsection (1) if the licensee does not, under

section 74, make an entry in the licensee’s transactions

register for a continuous period of 6 months.

(3) An authorised officer may extend the period mentioned in

subsection (2) if—

(a) the licensee applies to the authorised officer for an

extension before the end of the period mentioned in

subsection (2); and

(b) the authorised officer is satisfied there are exceptional

circumstances.

80 Condition—weapons must be labelled

(1) It is a condition of a dealer’s licence that the licensee must fix

a label, as provided under this section, to each weapon

possessed under the licence at the licensee’s business

premises.

(2) The label must—

(a) show a number that is capable of being used to identify

the record of any transaction involving the weapon that

is recorded in the licensee’s transactions register; and

(b) be fixed to the weapon or within 1 day after the weapon

is first possessed at the licensee’s business premises.

(3) If the weapon is in a box or other packaging, the label may be

fixed to the box or packaging.

(4) In this section—

weapon includes—

(a) an antique handgun; and

(b) a permanently deactivated category A, B or C weapon.

81 Condition—weapons must be able to be immediately

located

(1) It is a condition of a dealer’s licence that the licensee must

have a method for immediately locating—

(a) each weapon that is possessed under the licence at the

licensee’s business premises; and

(b) each entry made in the dealer’s transactions register

about a particular weapon.

(2) The method may include, for example, electronic records and

the labels mentioned in section 80.

(3) The method must be sufficient to enable the licensee, upon the

request of an authorised officer—

(a) to immediately produce to the officer a particular

weapon possessed under the licence at the licensee’s

business premises; and

(b) to immediately show the officer each entry made in the

dealer’s transactions register about a particular weapon.

(4) In this section—

weapon includes—

(a) an antique handgun; and

(b) a permanently deactivated category A, B or C weapon.

28 Condition—weapons must be able to be immediately

located

(1) It is a condition of an armourer’s licence that the licensee must

have a method for immediately locating—

(a) each weapon that is possessed under the licence at the

licensee’s business premises; and

(b) each entry made in the armourer’s transactions register

about a particular weapon.

(2) The method may include, for example, electronic records and

the labels mentioned in section 27.

(3) The method must be sufficient to enable the licensee, upon the

request of an authorised officer—

(a) to immediately produce to the officer a particular

weapon possessed under the licence at the licensee’s

business premises; and

(b) to immediately show the officer each entry made in the

armourer’s transactions register about a particular

weapon.

(4) In this section—

weapon includes—

(a) an antique handgun; and

(b) a permanently deactivated category A, B or C weapon.

(All Major Component Parts are defined as firearms so we must immediately produce a missing bolt or a missing magazine, or lose our licence.)

85 Restrictions on issue—generally

An authorised officer may issue a firearms licence only—

(a) for a category A, B, C or D weapon (the weapon); and

(b) to an adult (the applicant); and

(c) if the authorised officer is satisfied that the applicant’s

genuine reason for possession of the weapon is—

(i) a need to possess or use a category A or B weapon,

for an occupational rural purpose, in the conduct of

the applicant’s business or employment on stated

rural land; or

(ii) a need to possess or use a category C weapon, for

an occupational rural purpose, in the conduct of the

applicant’s business or employment on stated rural

land; or

(iii) a need to possess or use a category D weapon

87 Restrictions on issue

(1) The authorised officer may issue the firearms licence only if

the authorised officer is satisfied that—

(a) the need can not be satisfied in another way; and

(b) the stated rural land is suitable for the use of the weapon

to satisfy the need; and

(c) the stated rural land is in Queensland, unless there are

exceptional circumstances; and

(d) using the weapon on the stated rural land to satisfy the

need will not adversely affect public or individual

safety.

(2) Without limiting subsection (1)(a), in deciding whether or not

the need can be satisfied in another way, the authorised officer

must consider whether the need can be satisfied—

(a) in a way that does not require the applicant to possess a

weapon; or

(b) in a way that requires the applicant to possess a different

type or category of weapon.

(3) This section is in addition to section 85.

88 Additional information to accompany application

The application for the issue, or renewal, of the firearms

licence must be accompanied by—

(a) enough information about the need to possess the

weapon for the occupational rural purpose mentioned in

section 85(c)(i) to enable an authorised officer to decide

whether the need can be satisfied in another way; and

(b) enough information about the stated rural land to enable

an authorised officer to decide—

(i) whether the land is suitable for the use of the

weapon to satisfy the need mentioned in section

85(c)(i); and

(ii) whether using the weapon on the land to satisfy the

need will adversely affect public or individual

safety.

90 Restrictions on issue

(1) The authorised officer may issue the firearms licence only if

the authorised officer is satisfied that—

(a) the need can not be satisfied in another way; and

(3) Also, the authorised officer may issue the firearms licence for

more than 1 category C weapon only if the authorised officer

is satisfied that—

(a) the applicant has a need for more than 1 category C

weapon; and

(b) the need can not be satisfied in another way; and

(c) the stated rural land is suitable for the use of more than 1

category C weapon to satisfy the need; and

(d) using more than 1 category C weapon on the stated rural

land to satisfy the need will not adversely affect public

or individual safety.

106 Additional information to accompany application

The application for the issue, or renewal, of the firearms

licence must be accompanied by—

(a) 1 of the following—

(i) evidence of the applicant’s ownership of the stated

rural land;

(ii) written permission from the owner of the stated

rural land authorising the applicant to engage in

recreational shooting using category A or B

weapons on the land;

(iii) evidence of the applicant’s current membership of

a club mentioned in section 105(1)(a)(iii); and

(b) enough information about the location, area and

surrounding features of the stated rural land to enable an

authorised officer to decide—

(i) whether the land is suitable for the use of the

weapon to engage in recreational shooting; and

(ii) whether using the weapon on the land to engage in

recreational shooting will adversely affect public

or individual safety.

108 Restrictions on issue

(1) The authorised officer may issue the firearms licence only if

the authorised officer is satisfied that the applicant is a

member of—

(a) an approved target shooting club that is authorised to

conduct the sport of target shooting using category A or

B weapons; or

(b) a shooting association.

(2) This section is in addition to section 85.

110 Condition—membership of primary target shooting club

(1) It is a condition of the firearms licence that the licensee must

be a member of the licensee’s primary target shooting club.

(2) The licensee may change the licensee’s primary target

shooting club at any time by becoming a member of another

approved target shooting club that is authorised to conduct the

sport of target shooting using category A or B weapons, or

another shooting association (the new primary target

shooting club).

(3) However, the change does not take effect until the licensee

gives to each of the following a notice in the approved form of

the change—

(a) the new primary target shooting club;

(b) the previous primary target shooting club;

(c) an authorised officer.

113 Restrictions on issue

(1) The authorised officer may issue the firearms licence only if

the authorised officer is satisfied that—

(a) the applicant is a member of an approved target shooting

club that takes part in, or is affiliated with a body that

takes part in, clay target shooting competitions; and

(b) the applicant, because of a lack of strength or dexterity,

has a physical need for a category C shotgun to enable

the applicant to take part in the sport of target shooting.

(2) This section is in addition to section 85.

116 Condition—participation requirement

(1) This section applies if the licensee is the registered possessor

of a category C shotgun.

(2) It is a condition (participation condition) of the firearms

licence that the licensee must use a category C shotgun to

participate in at least 4 shoots in each financial year.

(3) For subsection (2)—

(a) at least 2 of the shoots must be clay target shooting

competitions; and

(b) each of the shoots must be conducted on a different day.

(4) This section is subject to sections 117, 118 and 119.

117 Condition—participation requirement if licensee has

owned weapon for less than 12 months but not less than

3 months in a financial year

(1) This section applies if the licensee is the registered possessor

of a category C shotgun for less than 12 months but not less

than 3 months in a particular financial year.

(2) The participation condition applies proportionately, based on

whole calendar months, for that financial year, after rounding

down to the nearest whole number of shoots.

118 Condition—participation requirement if licensee has

owned weapon for less than 3 months in a financial year

(1) This section applies if the licensee is the registered possessor

of a category C shotgun for less than 3 months in a particular

financial year.

(2) The participation condition does not apply for that financial

year.

119 Condition—participation requirement if licensee is

unable to satisfy condition

(1) This section applies if, for a particular financial year, the

licensee satisfies an authorised officer that the licensee is, or

was, unable to comply with the participation condition for the

year for reasons outside the licensee’s control.

(2) The authorised officer

may decide the number of times, if any,

that the licensee must use, or was required to use, a category C

shotgun in a shoot for the particular year to satisfy the

participation condition.

(3) A decision under subsection (2) may be made on a

proportionate basis, based on whole calendar months, having

regard to the period that the authorised officer is satisfied the

licensee is, or was, unable to comply with the participation

condition for reasons outside the licensee’s control.

120 Condition—requirement to keep participation record

(1) It is a condition of the firearms licence that the licensee must

keep a record of the licensee’s participation in shoots

(participation record).

(2) The participation record must contain the following

information for each shoot—

(a) the date and place of the shoot;

(b) the types of events in which the licensee participated;

(c) if the shoot is conducted at an approved range—the

name and licence number of the range officer

supervising the shoot;

(d) if the shoot is conducted at a place other than an

approved range—the name and the firearms licence

number or driver licence number of the person

supervising the shoot.

Examples of places other than an approved range—

• a Commonwealth approved range

• an interstate range approved under the law of another State

(3) The licensee must enter the information in the licensee’s

participation record immediately after the licensee’s

participation in the shoot has ended.

121 Condition—requirement to have participation record

endorsed as correct

(1) It is a condition of the firearms licence that the licensee must

have an entry in the licensee’s participation record endorsed

as correct by—

(a) if the shoot is conducted at an approved range—the

range officer supervising the shoot; or

(b) if the shoot is conducted at a place other than an

approved range—the person supervising the shoot.

(2) The endorsement under subsection (1) must—

(a) be made on the day of the shoot before the shoot ends;

and

(b) clearly identify the person making the endorsement.

(3) An entry properly endorsed under this section is evidence of

the licensee’s participation in the shoot.

122 Condition—requirement to give completed participation

record to primary target shooting club

(1) It is a condition of the firearms licence that the licensee must

give to an authorised officer the licensee’s completed

participation record for a financial year within 28 days after

the start of the following financial year.

(2) In this section—

completed participation record means a participation record

that complies with sections 120 and 121.

124 Restrictions on issue

(1) The authorised officer may issue the firearms licence only if

the authorised officer is satisfied that—

(a) the applicant is a member of an approved weapons club

that is authorised to conduct military simulation games

using paint-pellet guns; or

(b) the applicant intends to use a category A paint-pellet

gun to engage in military simulation games.

(2) This section is in addition to section 85

128 Restrictions on issue

An authorised officer may issue a firearms instructor’s licence

only—

(a) for a category A, B, C, D, E, H or M weapon (the

weapon); and

(b) to an adult (the applicant); and

(c) if the authorised officer is satisfied that—

(i) the applicant’s genuine reason for possession of

the weapon is to give instruction for either or both

of the following—

(A) an approved safety training course (general)

provided by an approved training provider;

(B) an approved safety training course (security

guard) provided by an approved training

provider; and

(ii) the applicant has the necessary skills and

experience to give the instruction; and

(iii) giving the instruction will not adversely affect

public or individual safety.

129 Additional information to accompany application

An application for the issue, or renewal, of a firearms

instructor’s licence must be accompanied by—

(a) evidence that the applicant has the necessary skills and

experience to give instruction for the relevant course

mentioned in section 128(c)(i); and

(b) evidence that giving the instruction will not adversely

affect public or individual safety; and

Examples of evidence of necessary skills and experience—

• details of current licences

• details of completed training courses

• details of experience handling weapons

• details of experience giving instruction

(c) the name of the approved training provider that will

provide the relevant course mentioned in section

128(c)(I).

131 Condition—regular instruction

(1) It is a condition of a firearms instructor’s licence that the

licensee must give regular instruction for a course mentioned

in section 128(c)(i).

(2) Without limiting subsection (1), a licensee is taken to have

contravened the condition mentioned in subsection (1) if the

licensee does not, under section 130, make an entry in the

licensee’s training register for a continuous period of 12

months.

132 Definitions for div 9

In this division—

category A weapon does not include a disguised category A

weapon.

category B weapon does not include a disguised category B

weapon.

From Draft Weapons Act

Section 178 Unlawful possession of weapon prohibited

(2) For subsection (1), a person who possesses a disguised

category A weapon or a disguised category B weapon is taken

to possess a category H weapon.

Definition

disguised category A weapon means a weapon mentioned in

the Weapons Categories Regulation 2010, section 4(1) or (3)

that is disguised as a thing other than a weapon.

Example—

a shotgun or rim-fire rifle disguised as a walking cane or a poacher’s

stick

disguised category B weapon means a weapon mentioned in

the Weapons Categories Regulation 2010, section 5(1) or (3)

that is disguised as a thing other than a weapon.

Example—

a centre-fire rifle disguised as a walking cane or a poacher’s stick

134 Restrictions on issue—generally

An authorised officer may issue a group licence only—

(a) for a prescribed weapon (the weapon); and

(b) to an adult or a body (the applicant); and

(c) if the authorised officer is satisfied that—

(i) for an adult, or a body other than a body mentioned

in subparagraph (ii) or (iii)—the applicant’s

genuine reason for possession of the weapon is a

group need; or

135 Restrictions on issue—group need mentioned in s 132,

def group need, paragraph (a)(i), (ii), (iii), (iv) or (vi)

(1) This section applies if the applicant’s genuine reason for

possession of the weapon is a need mentioned in section 132,

definition group need, paragraph (a)(i), (ii), (iii), (iv) or (vi).

(2) The authorised officer may issue the group licence only if the

authorised officer is satisfied that—

(a) the need can not be satisfied in another way; and

(b) the stated land, area, place or vessel is suitable for the

use of the weapon to satisfy the need; and

(c) using the weapon on the stated land, area, place or

vessel to satisfy the need will not adversely affect public

or individual safety.

(3) Without limiting subsection (2)(a), in deciding whether or not

the need can be satisfied in another way, the authorised officer

must consider whether the need can be satisfied—

(a) in a way that does not require the applicant to possess a

weapon; or

147 Restrictions on issue—generally

An authorised officer may issue a minor’s licence only—

(a) for a category A, B, C, or H weapon, or a category M

crossbow (the weapon); and

(b) to a minor who is at least 11 years (the applicant); and

(c) if the authorised officer is satisfied that the applicant’s

genuine reason for possession of the weapon is—

149 Restrictions on issue

(1) The authorised officer may issue the minor’s licence only if

the authorised officer is satisfied that—

(a) the need can not be satisfied in another way; and

(b) the stated rural land is suitable for the use of the weapon

to satisfy the need; and

150 Additional information to accompany application

The application for the issue, or renewal, of the minor’s

licence must be accompanied by—

(a) enough information about the need to possess the

weapon for the occupational rural purpose mentioned in

section 147(c)(i) to enable an authorised officer to

decide whether the need can be satisfied in another way;

and

152 Restrictions on issue

(1) The authorised officer may issue the minor’s licence only if

the authorised officer is satisfied that—

(a) the need can not be satisfied in another way; and

(b) the stated rural land is suitable for the use of the weapon

to satisfy the need; and

(2) Without limiting subsection (1)(a), in deciding whether or not

the need can be satisfied in another way, the authorised officer

must consider whether the need can be satisfied—

(a) in a way that does not require the applicant to possess a

weapon; or

(John Howard’s Bullet Proof Vest)

179 Application of sdiv 2

This subdivision applies if—

(a) the application is for the issue, or renewal, of a

miscellaneous weapons licence for a category E

weapon; and

(b) the applicant’s genuine reason for possession of the

weapon is—

(i) a special occupational need for the weapon as

mentioned in section 178(c)(i)(A); or

(ii) an exceptional need for the weapon for

self-preservation as mentioned in section

178(c)(i)(B).

180 Restrictions on issue

(1) The authorised officer may issue the miscellaneous weapons

licence only if the authorised officer is satisfied that the need

can not be satisfied in another way.

(2) Without limiting subsection (1), in deciding whether or not

the need can be satisfied in another way, the authorised officer

must consider whether the need can be satisfied in a way that

does not require the applicant to possess a category E weapon.

(3) This section is in addition to section 178.

181 Additional information to accompany application

The application for the issue, or renewal, of the miscellaneous

weapons licence must be accompanied by enough information

about the need for the weapon to enable an authorised officer

to decide whether the need can be satisfied in another way.

191 Application of sdiv 6

This subdivision applies if—

(a) the application is for the issue, or renewal, of a

miscellaneous weapons licence for a category M

crossbow; and

(b) the applicant’s genuine reason for possession of the

category M crossbow, under section 178(c)(ii)(D), is to

engage in the sport of target shooting.

192 Restrictions on issue

(1) The authorised officer may issue the licence only if the

authorised officer is satisfied that the applicant is—

(a) an approved target shooting club that is authorised to

conduct the sport of target shooting using category M

crossbows; or

217 Restrictions on issue

(1) An authorised officer may issue a theatrical ordnance

supplier’s licence only—

(a) for a prescribed weapon (the weapon); and

(b) to an adult or a body (the applicant); and

(c) if the authorised officer is satisfied that—

(i) the applicant’s genuine reason for possession of the

weapon is to conduct the business of theatrical

ordnance supplier; and

(ii) the business will be conducted in a way that will

not adversely affect public or individual safety; and

(iii) the premises from which the applicant will conduct

the business are suitable for conducting the

business of theatrical ordnance supplier; and

(iv) using the premises to conduct of the business of

theatrical ordnance supplier will not adversely

affect public or individual safety.

218 Additional information to accompany application

An application for the issue, or renewal, of a theatrical

ordnance supplier’s licence must be accompanied by—

(a) enough information about the business of theatrical

ordnance supplier to be conducted under the licence to

enable an authorised officer to decide whether the

business will be conducted in a way that adversely

affects public or individual safety; and

Examples of information about the business—

• business structure, for example, sole proprietorship,

partnership

• equipment to be used in the business

• intended client or market base

271 Condition—membership information

(1) It is a condition of a recreational shooting club permit that the

body that is the holder of the permit must give an authorised

officer a notice stating—

(a) when a member of the body stops being a member of the

body; or

(b) when a member of the body is expelled from the body

and the reason for the expulsion.

(2) The notice mentioned in subsection (1) must be given to the

authorised officer within 14 days after the day the member

stops being a member or is expelled.

(3) It is a condition of a recreational shooting club permit that the

body that is the holder of the permit must, upon the request of

an authorised officer, give the authorised officer a notice

stating whether a particular person is a member of the body or

holds a particular position within the body.

(4) The notice mentioned in subsection (3) must be given to the

authorised officer within a reasonable period, of at least 7

days, stated in the notice.

(5) An authorised officer may extend the period mentioned in

subsection (4) if—

(a) the body applies to the authorised officer for an

extension before the end of the period mentioned in

subsection (4); and

(b) the authorised officer is satisfied there are exceptional

circumstances.

272 Duties of body’s representative and members of

governing body

(1) This section applies to the body’s representative, and each

member of the governing body, of a body holding a

recreational shooting club permit.

(2) The person must take all reasonable steps to ensure the body,

its members and each person engaging in an activity

conducted by the body does not contravene a prescribed

provision.

Maximum penalty—20 penalty units.

(3) Subsection (2) does not apply if the person has given notice

under section 139(3) of the Act stating that the authority of the

person has stopped.

(4) In this section—

prescribed provision means—

(a) chapter 6, part 1, division 1 of the Act; or

(b) chapter 6, part 3 of the Act; or

(c) section 273.

273 Duties of person engaging in club activity

A person engaging in an activity conducted by an approved

recreational shooting club—

(a) must not possess or use a weapon for the activity unless

the possession or use complies with the recreational

shooting club permit; and

(b) must not use a weapon for the activity in a way that is

likely to cause death or injury to a person or unlawful

destruction or damage to property; and

(c) must comply with a safety direction given by the body’s

representative, or a member of the governing body, of

the body that holds the recreational shooting club

permit, unless the person has a reasonable excuse.

Maximum penalty—20 penalty units.

281 Adequate supervision

(1) It is a condition of a target shooting club permit that the body

that is the holder of the permit must take reasonable steps to

ensure that each person using a prescribed weapon to engage

in the sport of target shooting conducted by the body is

adequately supervised by—

(a) a range officer appointed by the body under subsection

(2); or

(b) a range officer’s appointee appointed by the range

officer under subsection (2).

(2) A person appointed as a range officer or range officer’s

appointee must be—

(a) an adult; and

b) hold a licence, or an interstate licence, for a firearm; and

(c) have the necessary skills and experience to take primary

responsibility for the supervision of persons using a

prescribed weapon at the shooting range.

(3) In this section—

adequately supervise, persons engaging in the sport of target

shooting conducted by an approved target shooting club,

means take all reasonable steps to ensure the personal safety

of the persons and any other persons also engaging in the

sport of target shooting.

Subdivision 4 Duties

288 Body’s representative and members of governing body

(1) This section applies to the body’s representative, and each

member of the governing body, of a body holding a target

shooting club permit.

(2) The person must take all reasonable steps to ensure the body,

its members and each person engaging in an activity

conducted by the body does not contravene a prescribed

provision.

Maximum penalty—20 penalty units.

(3) Subsection (2) does not apply if the person has given notice

under section 139(3) of the Act stating that the authority of the

person has stopped.

(4) In this section—

prescribed provision means—

325 Record of maintenance

(1) It is a condition of a shooting range permit that the holder

must keep a record of the maintenance carried out on the

safety infrastructure of the shooting range, as provided under

this section.

(2) The record of maintenance must state—

(a) the date the maintenance was carried out; and

(b) a brief description of the maintenance carried out.

(3) The holder must, before 31 August in each year, give a copy

of the record, to the extent that it relates to maintenance

carried out in the immediately preceding financial year, to an

authorised officer.

(4) An authorised officer may extend the time limit mentioned in

subsection (3) if the authorised officer is satisfied there are

exceptional circumstances.

(5) In this section—

safety infrastructure, of a shooting range, includes, for

example, the baffles, mound, stop butt and retaining walls of

the range.

326 Informing police officer of injury or damage

(1) It is a condition of a shooting range permit that the holder

must inform a police officer of any—

(a) injury to a person caused by a weapon used at the range;

or

(b) damage to property at or in the vicinity of the range

caused by a weapon used at the range, other than

damage to a target or a thing designed as a bullet barrier.

(2) The holder must inform the police officer of the matters

mentioned in subsection (1) immediately after the holder, or if

the holder is a body, the body’s representative, first becomes

aware, or suspects, that the injury or damage has happened.

Subdivision 3 Duties

327 Body’s representative and members of governing body

(1) This section applies to the body’s representative, and each

member of the governing body, of a body holding a shooting

range permit.

(2) The person must take all reasonable steps to ensure the body,

its members, and each person attending the approved range

does not contravene a prescribed provision.

Maximum penalty—20 penalty units.

(3) Subsection (2) does not apply if the person has given notice

under section 139(3) of the Act stating that the authority of the

person has stopped.

(4) In this section—

prescribed provision means—

(a) chapter 6, part 1, division 1 of the Act; or

(b) chapter 6, part 3 of the Act; or

(c) a condition under subdivision 2; or

(d) section 328 or 329.

General

1 Methods

(1) A firearm may be modified to make it permanently incapable

of being discharged by—

(a) fusion welding under part 2; or

(b) sectioning under part 3.

(2) However, a firearm made of light alloy or plastic may only be

modified to make it permanently incapable of being

discharged by sectioning under part 3.

2 Purpose

(1) The purpose of fusion welding is to weld material into the

barrel of a firearm, and to weld all major parts of the firearm

in a way that can not be reversed.

(2) The purpose of sectioning is to machine or mill all major parts

of a firearm in a way that can not be reversed and to expose

the internal mechanism of the firearm to enable it to be used

for display or instructional purposes.

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Part 2 Fusion welding

3 Bolt action rifle

A bolt action rifle may be modified to make it permanently

incapable of being discharged by doing all of the following—

(a) boring a calibre size hole in the chamber;

(b) inserting a close fitting steel rod in the barrel and

welding at the muzzle and breech;

(c) completely breaking off, grinding off or removing the

firing pin;

(d) welding the trigger to the receiver;

(e) welding the bolt to the receiver either—

(i) through the magazine well or the ejection port; or

(ii) along the exposed surface of the bolt for at least 80

per cent of the bolt’s length;

(f) cutting off the magazine lips and removing the spring

and follower;

(g) if the rifle has a quick detachable barrel—welding the

barrel to the receiver;

(h) if the rifle has a tube type magazine—cutting off the

crimped end of the guide, if any, and removing the

spring and follower.

7 Muzzle loading rifle

A muzzle loading rifle may be modified to make it

permanently incapable of being discharged by doing all of the

following—

(a) boring a calibre size hole in the chamber;

(b) inserting a close fitting steel rod in the barrel and

welding at the muzzle;

(c) welding the flash hole closed;

(d) welding the trigger to the receiver;

(e) welding the hammer to the receiver.

8 Single or double barrel shotgun

A single or double barrel shotgun may be modified to make it

permanently incapable of being discharged by doing all of the

following—

(a) boring a hole, approximately 60 per cent of the bore

size, just forward of the chamber (or chambers);

(b) inserting a close fitting steel plug of the length of the

chamber in the chamber (or chambers) and welding at

the breech;

(c) completely breaking off, grinding off or removing the

firing pins, or welding them to the receiver;

(d) welding the trigger to the receiver;

(e) welding the breech lever to the receiver;

(f) welding the barrel or the barrel lug, with a substantial

weld, to the receiver to prevent the barrel opening;

(g) if the shotgun has exposed hammers—welding the

hammers to the side plates or the receiver.

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Yesterday the Queensland State Government tabled 2 documents , the Weapons Regulation 2010 – Consultation Draft and the Weapons Bill 2010 – Consultation Draft. Below is the link to the relevant website. Please be aware that although the public consultation period ends on 14 September, submissions must be received by 28 August 2010. This is another fresh 642 pages of imposed legislation that affects the law abiding citizen of Queensland.

Draft of the Weapons Bill 2010 ( 879 KB) and the Draft Weapons Regulation 2010 ( 891 KB)

It does not affect the Police and it does not affect the Crims, only You the Firearm Owner will be the VICTIMS.

Now is the time to act and mobilise your friends and families to defend all our rights. As we have been the victims for to long.

Please write and email, use the power of the computer to send your personal letter to the politicians, use the links below to send to as many Queensland politicians as possible.

Make sure you always include your name and address. That way you will be taken seriously.

QLD Gov Ministers: Click here to e-mail all Gov Ministers

QLD Shadow Gov Ministers: Click here to e-mail all Shadow Gov Ministers

Find your local MP: Click here to find your local MP, Click on their Electorate in the middle of the column, then click on the e-mail address

Below is a copy of my letter, to be used as idea’s. Copy the heading only,

‘Submission on, Draft of the Weapons Bill 2010 and the Draft Weapons Regulation 2010′.

I have already sent this so please don’t just copy all of it and send it again, change it a bit, at least. Even that though is better than not sending anything at all. Remember submissions must be received by 28 August 2010.

Civilisation began because People chose to live in a society that protected them from ‘Bullies’.

Dear Sir/Madame

RE- Submission on Draft of the Weapons Bill 2010 and the Draft Weapons Regulation 2010.

As an ex service man of seven years and a person who received his first shooting license, fifty years ago, when I was twelve, I ask that the government not impose even more dictates on shooters.

The Police Minister says in his press release, http://www.police.qld.gov.au/programs/weaponsLicensing/weapons_bill/

“has been developed with a clear and overarching objective in mind – increasing community safety. These recommended changes will also help to make the legislation easier to read and interpret by consolidating existing and new provisions to clarify the rights and responsibilities of weapons owners. Ministerial Weapons Act Review Committee was formed and the Act and its Regulations were re-written. That same committee – comprising of representatives from the weapons industry, civil rights, Government and the Queensland Police Service.”

Your drafters of this 642 pages of legislation have only re-written the draft to the instructions of the Queensland Police Service. None of the recommendations of the Firearm organisations was given half a line. Even the RSL has to totally wreck its exhibits to place them on display, in secure premises. These two documents are purely the product of the Police.

Legislation is supposed to be a pact between the people and the parliament not the product of those you chose to set over us. The Police are a self interested body who continually increases itself on a perpetual growth system know as ‘Parkinson’s Law’, or ‘Jobs for the Boys’. The more power it has the more staff it has the better pay increments it leader have. The increase kills all efficiencies but then again they have totally lost the point of defending the people and saving life, they State revenue raisers and State bully boys that you set over us.

I would like to remind the Minister, we firearm owners are the ‘Community’. Before he imposes 642 pages of legislation throttling that community, he should first demonstrate a need for any of it. When twenty years ago in 1990, we had 29 pages of the Queensland Firearms Act of 1976, the communities greatest problems then was that the Australian society was broken into three sections, the Criminal Elements, who take no notice of Firearm law and the Queensland Police, who are exempt from it anyway and the Law Abiding Society including Law Abiding firearm owners, who are the Victims. Twenty years later, and hundreds of pages of firearm legislation later we have Home Invasion a crime that was unheard of until this legislation dis armed the community, ‘the Victims’. This legislation left us with huge increased crime rates, inflicted on the Community, the un armed or un prepared Victims. Propelled by that increase we have had a huge taxation and administration burdens due to increases in Police. Supposedly to control this crime increase but these increases are more than likely dissipated in supervising the best behaved elements of our community the law abiding firearm owner.

The new legislation imposes a 124 % increase in charges, to prevent pensioners from retaining their property. If they do not disarm us by legislation they fine, without trial, prosecute by taking our money and when we cannot afford it take our property by default.

This new legislation gives un precedented powers to the authorised police officers who can then make un written, un seen by parliament the law of the land. For example, if a persons property, a firearm looks nasty in the eyes of the authorised officer it can be re-categorised from A to D the result being you cannot own it anymore.

Giving the Police these discretionary powers to make their own law, was one of the Fitzgerald Inquiries biggest gripes about the past system.

This legislation takes away all principles of civil rights, the powers of search, the powers to indict, without providing evidence to a jury, the power to judge and limit people by association, the power to take peoples livelihoods, there tools of trade, without trial. Giving these immense powers to an organisation with a known criminal record. (The CJC, the CMC, the Australian Crime Commissions have endless convictions on this organisation)

This draft Act also creates huge impositions on the community that has to police, in and un paid capacity, the jobs that the Queensland Police Service do not want to do themselves, such as Pistol Clubs having to inspect members shoot records for each member, for each category of firearms. These are volunteers, trying to run a non-profit association and your legislation gives a penalty if they do not perform to expectations demanded by the Queensland Police Force.

Your proposed legislation turns firearm dealers , and armourers into unpaid policemen, checking thousands of documents for the police, on a penalty if they make a mistake. Forced to carry out the work of the Queensland Police in harassing there customers. The Queensland Police must have taken lessons from the Gestapo.

To set a document of this size over the law abiding people of this state, when you intend to prosecute these people for not knowing these proposed laws. When with forethought and planning you understand that memorising 642 pages is beyond the mental capacity of the parliamentarians to even read it, before voting on it, never mind remembering it all, is a crime of tyranny against the people you are supposed to represent.

Our parliamentarians have set two dogs to rip the Victims apart, one is the Criminal elements that are given free reign to raid, rape and plunder at will and the other is the known criminal group the Queensland Police Service. (taxpayer millions go to the CMC which only faintly attempts to control there excesses) Why does parliament give them both more licence to get fat from the Victims?

The drafters of this legislative nightmare make the Police the sole judge of firearm safety, they appoint the safety testers, they check the shooting ranges, they assess the categories of firearms, they legislate the magazine capacities, and yet it is an accepted fact that the Queensland Police Service are the most dangerous and have the worst safety record in the state. There could be possible another State or Federal body that has a worse safety record but it would be doubtful. What intelligent group would do that?

We have all done what you have ordered, we have had ourselves photographed, we have joined clubs, you force us to attend, we have gone out and bought steel safes, we pay for half a dozen different licenses, as collectors, hand guns, armourer, long arms, as you legislated for nearly a dozen different types. For all of them, we send multi, photographs of ourselves, much money, multi page renewal forms, multi page applications for ‘Permits to Acquire’ after we have already sent the same information with the licence applications. We buy home security systems, extra security for our cars, we put up with the police knocking on our home doors to check what we have in our steel safes. We have done all this and now you want more?

You want more money, $5 million. You want to tax us, or more like fine us, the best behaved section of our community.

If you really wanted to save money and spend more in hospitals, you should do away with the whole system altogether as it achieves nothing. It would save ten million or more. To you politicians its peanuts, to us it’s the very thin end, of a thin wedge.

Recently, the police dragged a pensioner before the courts for having a pkt of .22 ammo in a cupboard. He had handed his rifles in at the police station, (could not afford the renewal fee’s) and asked the policeman what he should do with the ammo. The policeman answered honestly that he had no interest in it. so the pensioner took it home. He was responsible, he didn’t throw it in the bin, or chuck it out of the car window in disgust at losing his property, his rifles. Now he is facing charges for having ammunition without a license. It cannot hurt anyone without the rifle, even if you burn it, only the brass cases pop off, 30 inches it won’t penetrate a sheet of brown paper.

We citizens have become the hunted, you are now our jailors. The government once gave me a rifle and ammunition, lots of it, to do its work. Maybe we were on the wrong side. ‘Betrayal’ leaves a bad taste, and the mates who died for freedom have been betrayed far more than I. We used to have rights but you have taken them all away, the right to freely own property, the right to defend oneself and our families, freedom of speech. (Anti-discrimination laws have stolen that) We now do not have a right to chose, who we employ.

I suppose you think that those two hundred thousand shooters, (the police always minimize except when they want more money) will not vote Labour anyway and so you don’t care, but Labour always forgets a few things. Most shooters dislike your opposition, Liberal and National more than you. National, Russell Cooper and the ‘evil gnome’ John Howard introduced the last lot of legislation, and the shooters will never vote for them again. It has put the National Party out of power for twelve years.

You the Labour Party have been the beneficiaries of that for twelve years. We victims, all have families, wives kids and some with parents and uncles. Who do you think they vote for? If you want to put the other side in, go for it.

Ron Owen , JP. (Qual)

Civilisation began because People chose to live in a society that protected them from ‘Bullies’.