Owen Guns Bulletin August 2016 Special Edition 122
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Thoughts For The Week
“Freedom is the sure possession of those alone who have the courage to defend it.”– Pericles
Due to Crimtrac registering two million licenced shooters and 25% of the voting public voted for independents or minority parties, two of these parties have asked me personally make suggestions and proposals to assist them in formulating their firearm legislation policies. As this affects all members of the Firearm Owners Association of Australia and all other shooters, I am reminding the members and others of the policy we have followed since our inauguration way back in 1988 and throwing it open for some discussion and hoping to get some feedback.
Firearm Owners Association of Australia website is http://www.foaa.com.au/general/
Of course without a general meeting we will not change our current policy, but as there is some urgency in this matter and many of the readers of this bulletin will be involved in supporting these new parties during the formulation of their branch structures throughout Australia, some of these moral issues should be now aired.
“The Nation that makes a great distinction between its scholars and its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting done by fools.”- Thucydides
FOAA policy has been since its inception, “That as firearm controls, on people of good character have never been shown to improve public safety, that all legislation contrary to this should be opposed”. The opinion of the delegates at that time on what was “good character” was decided to be if the State gave the person a driving licence it obviously trusts them to guide a two ton missile that can change direction and if used irresponsibly can cause much death and destruction, so that is enough.
To arrive at that policy thirty delegates sat around a table for two days and at times the discussion was heated, but eventually that policy was decided on unanimously. The one of the many issues raised was that the State allowed mentally disturbed people, even the criminally insane to walk our streets and drive a motor car. The answer to this of course is that two wrongs do not make a right. We should insist that our representatives legislate to protect the public by isolating the insane and wrong doers and not punish the innocent and leaving them defenceless.
“False is the idea of utility that sacrifices a thousand real advantages for one imaginary or trifling inconvenience; that would take fire from men because it burns, and water because one may drown in it; that has no remedy for evils except destruction. The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.” Cesare Beccaria (1735-1794)
Many brought up the problem of domestic violence, and quite correctly it was pointed out that it was hardly a remedy to disarm the weak and leave them at the mercy of the strong, that either male or female could be the guilty party in abuse and taking the equaliser away would not stop the problem, families could be poisoned or bashed to death with a beer bottle.
In every serious study of human behaviour no one has proved that the proliferation of firearms has increased the rate of murders or armed robbery in fact most studies find the reverse that firearms save more lives. Police Inspector Colin Greenwood, stated in his study “Firearms Control”, 1972.“No matter how one approaches the figures, one is forced to the rather startling conclusion that the use of firearms in crime was very much less when there were no controls of any sort and when anyone, convicted criminal or lunatic, could buy any type of firearm without restriction. Half a century of strict controls on pistols has ended, perversely, with a far greater use of this weapon in crime than ever before.”
Of course if one looked at suicide and in some societies where there are less firearms, less will be used in suicides but the suicide rate per population stays the same. It is only a choice factor. In Britain during the 1960s within a 12 month period they changed the lethal coal gas to non lethal natural gas, so no suicide died from gas poisoning, but the suicide rate stayed the same.
The issue of child safety were raised, but all agreed that it was an educational problem for both parents and children, like teaching your children the dangers of water or fire, punishing the innocent to protect the guilty does not work. Check out the futility of swimming pool legislation since its introduction in the 1990s more children have died by drowning every year, yet they punish the innocent forcing them to build a prison around their property instead of teaching children to swim.
“Doctors have been caught using poisons, and those who falsely assume the name of philosopher have occasionally been detected in the gravest crimes. Let us give up eating, it often makes us ill; let us never go inside houses, for sometimes they collapse on their occupants; let never a sword be forged for a soldier, since it might be used by a robber. “ Marcus Fabius Quintilian (35-100 A.D. Institutio Oratoria, II, xv
First End the PTA system, then registration of Long Arms.
So unless some of our members can raise some logical reasons why free peoples rights should be removed I will propose that the new political parties use our policy which has unified us for nearly thirty years. I will also suggest that the first wrong to be righted should be the removal of the Permits To Acquire system followed by the ending of long arm registration, followed by allowing hunting on all crown land followed by the return of semi autos and legalisation of silencers, until the tyranny is ended. Many of our readers will be instrumental in carrying out these remedies as you will be involved with this new libertarian movement that has had its re birth at the last Federal Election. These new parties will struggle, as did the New Country Party, and the Confederate Action Party and the last raising of the One Nation flag, but as long as they do not lose direction and follow the sheep in the Green, Liberal National Party we will succeed.
“I will teach my children weapons and warfare, so they might teach their children science and law, so they might teach their children art and literature.”- Unknown Greek
The Firearm Owners Association of Australia were guided by the principles of liberty as stated in John Locke “Second Treatise of Government”, “That people have rights, such as the right to life, liberty, and property, ( property includes firearms, machines and the pursuit of happiness) that they have a foundation superior to the laws of any particular society”. Locke used the claim that men are naturally free and equal, that legitimate political government is the result of a social contract where people in the state of nature conditionally transfer some of their rights to the government in order to ensure stable, comfortable enjoyment of their lives, liberty, and property. Since governments exist by the consent of the people in order to protect the rights of the people and promote the public good, governments that fail to do so can be resisted and replaced with new governments. Locke also defends the principle of majority rule and the separation of legislative and executive powers.
We all acknowledge that our current governments have set out to over burden us with legislation and public servants, they have failed to allow us to enjoy our lives and property so deserve to be replaced. Imagine, how much more men and money, (Billions every year) can be returned to policing our streets and isolating criminals from the law abiding community. It could be the end of ‘Car Jacking, and “Home Invasion”.
“Laws that forbid the carrying of arms… disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes… Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.” Cesare Beccaria (1735-1794)
The guiding principle for all ‘none socialist’ independents and new parties should be the freedom of the individual, the enemy will resist with socialist propaganda, its support for the New World Order and call it the modern age, but freedom and rights are timeless, if we are not free we might as well be somewhere else, where we are free. Fifteen hundred years ago St Augustine was so clear in his statement,
“Though defensive violence will always be ‘a sad necessity’ in the eyes of men of principle, it would be still more unfortunate if wrongdoers should dominate just men.”
We have been dominated, now it is time to replace the old socialists, and right the wrongs that have been imposed on us.
There is no Spring without Winter, without Mistakes there is no Learning. There is no Life without Death, without Doubts there is no Faith. There is no Peace without War, without Fear there is no Courage. For without Mistakes, Doubts and Fears there are no pathways to Wisdom.
E Petition to Parliament that Urgently need your attention.
Just a few days to go ENDS 28th AUGUST 2016.
We want to put forward a strong number of people from our point of view please take a minute to sign this properly endorsed Petition. These are not ‘Change’ that is going to send you a myriad of adverts. This is the Queensland Parliaments site. If we ask for nothing we will receive nothing please give them a vote. ASAP.
Corella Range Complex for Gympie
Queensland residents draws to the attention of the House a 24 years-old promise to replace the Victory Range Gympie. The 1999 “Comino Report” (State Government Rifle Range Advisory Panel) recommended that land, in Corella SF700, be excised from the Curra State Forest to establish a regional shooting complex. Due to strong community support and a 50% annual increase in shooting licence applications the Cooloola Range Complex Association was formed with assistance from local Councils. It lodged a submission to the state government in 2003. Two subsequent “Difficult to Locate Sports” reports identified the need for a new shooting range complex at the Corella SF700 site with Queensland Police approving the range safety templates. In 2014, the Minister for Sport, Steve Dickson, gave an “Agreement in Principle” to revocation of the land, with the proviso of answering four questions, subsequently answered in the 2015 Ross Planning Feasibility report. Minister Steven Miles claims they will honour the “Agreement in Principle” but has imposed a ‘five to one’ land swap, (or equivalent in money) despite this requirement being previously waived. The requirement for a ‘five to one’ land swap, (or equivalent in money) was not contemplated in the original agreement and such an onerous requirement is denying the Gympie region of the economic and social benefits of this new facility.
Your petitioners therefore request the House to immediately excise Corella SF700 from the Curra State Forest, or issue a lease to the local council for a sporting shooters range complex.
Its that time of the year for Joe Blakes to wiggle around and end up in the wrong place, at the wrong time, with an Armed folding .410 shotgun you can guard your premises and maybe save a life, chrome barrels 3 inch chambers, use shot or .410 sold slug, light weight synthetic stock, great for camping, little recoil, $ 185. brand new. Email email@example.com
Owen Gun Instructional Wall Charts
The Owen Gun, the best sub-machine carbine of World War II. Invented, designed and manufactured in Australia. Australia, that was at that time under threat of invasion by the Japanese. As used, by Lysaghts to train staff in assemble-diss-assembly at the Springhill Works, Port Kembla and Lysaghts Newcastle. These Instrucitonal Wall Chart Posters were also used by the Australian Forces from 1942 to 1967 for training purposes.These Owen Gun Wall Charts are printed on a banner vinyl, so do not need framing or laminating. Great for Returned Service Club, Rifle Clubs, Behind the bar, in the reloading room. Complete with the inventors Evelyn Owen signature. Two vinyl sizes 730mm x 480mm $40. plus $12 for tube and postage. 1080mm x 720mm $55. plus $15 for tube and postage. Phone 07 54 825070.
Sabatti Model 70 a classical European hunting rifle, Walnut Stock, Same scope base mounts as a Model 700 Remington, 5 round capacity, only a few at $695.
NEW FIREARM SHOWROOM. CALL IN AND VIEW OUR DISPLAY OF 450 (plus) FIREARMS, (OPENING Soon a new Gunroom that will increase our total retail size to 540 sq metres and put 3000 plus firearms on display)
Owen Guns at Gympie have our own Gun Shows permanently so please call in to see us. For a look at some at our other gun rooms please click on the link below. http://www.owenguns.com/gympie-shop/gun-rooms/ All the prices below are prices in the shop, or online but then you have to pay packing post, or freight. So save money and call in, all are welcome.
Mossberg Maverick Rifles, made in the USA, only in .270 and 30-06 great Deer rifles, Weaver Scope bases included, Scopes and rings of your choice at the extra dollars. Only 11 of these rifles are left to sell. First in with the dollars will be the beneficiaries. Phone 0754825070 with your credit card details. Everything in Stock at the time of publication, we can only hold prices while stocks last. email firstname.lastname@example.org
This is a list of one lot of second hand firearms, near new, some never fired, some still with the original box, that came in last week. When we have time we will photograph and put on http://www.owenguns.com/ad-category/used-guns/ If you want to get one first phone today 07 54 825070. with your credit card details and we will dispatch when you have the necessary paper work.
Brno, 12G, ZH 301, Under and Over Cost: $1000,
Baikal, 410, MP 18, Single Barrel Near New $250.
Baikal, 12G, MP 18 Single Barrel Near New $250,
Rizzini, 20G, Hombra, Cost: Under & Over $1000,
Savage, 22lr /20g, 24SE, Under &Over : $500,
Baikal, 12G, MP-27, Under & Over: $300,
Marlin, 30-30, 30AS, Lever Action7 shot : $950,
Ruger, 44 Mag, 96/44, Lever Action 4 shot : $650
Boito, 410, Double Barrel Chrome: $600,
Brno, 30-06, S550, Bolt Action $1000,
Miroku, 20G, Single Barrel, $300.
Eibar, 410, Single Barrel,: $300,
Parker – Hale, 22/250, Model 1200, $690
Parker-Hale, 303, Lee Enfield Sporter $300,
Browning, .22lr, BL22, Lever Action $800,
Lumar, 20G, Under & Over, $1000,
Ruger, 7mm win mag, M 77, $750,
Norinco, 22 Lever Action JW21, Near New $450,
New England Arms Co, 12G, Single barrel $200
Marlin, 22 Magnum, Model 25mn, 7 shot $400,
H&R, 45/410, Single $400,
Boito, 410, Double Barrel $500,
Kimber, 280, Model VZ24 Bolt Action, $700.
H&R, 410, Pardner, Single barrel Cost: $250,
C.B.C, 22 Magnum, Model 151, Single shot: $250,
Rossi,. 308, Model 623, Single shot $500,
Rossi, 223, Model, 608, Single Shot $400,
C.B.C, 22, Model, 151,Single Shot $200,
Taurus, 22 lr Pump Action 12 shot M62CSS, $500,
Browning, 243, A Bolt, Cost: $600,
Remington, 300 S. A. U.Mag, Model 700, Cost: $1000.
Baikal, 308, under & Over 12H-94, Cost: $500,
Zayer, 12G, ,Side by Side Cost: $700,
Howa, 308, Mod 1500, 5 shot $600,
Sturm Ruger, 223, Bolt Action $700,
H&R, 410, Single Barrel Cost: $200,
Browning, 223 WSM, A bolt Stalker, $500,
Remington, 25/20, Pump New Barrel, 10 shot $300,
Norinco, 22 Mag, bolt action JW23, $300,
Boito, 410, , Miura, double barrel $600,
H&R, 204, SB2-204, Single shot $200,
Rossi, 243w, single shot: $500,
Martini, Cadet 310, Single shot $250,
Winchester, 375 big bore, Mod 1894, Lever action, $1000,
Rossi, 410, Pomba, single barrel $300,
Greener, 310, Cadet, Cost: single shot $250,
Brno Fox Model 2, 5 shot $500,
Bruno Castellani, 12G, Side by Side $1000,
Boito, 410, Model 410, Single barrel $200,
Mauser, 6.5mm x 55, Model 96 rifle, $600,
Bruno Castellani, 5.6 .223/12G, Mod ZH306,U&O $1000,
Mossberg, 12G, Model 595, Bolt action 3 shot $400,
Mauser, 6.5mmx55, Model 96 Rifle, $600,
UZKON In stock now $895. 20 inch barrels only 4 left.
We have been informed by many of our customers that Owen Guns is the best kept secret in the Australian Firearm Industry. The best service with the lowest prices. We save money by not having to take huge Magazine advertisements so we have the lowest prices for the same quality firearms in Australia. If you wish to shop around please give us a call, before you buy. Phone 07 54 825070.
Mossberg Model 464, 30-30 Lever Action 7 shot magazine Angle eject and take a scope, $629.
Phone 0754825070 with your credit card details.
Sorry we have sold out of the 222 rem Marlin Sporters we had at $399. we only have four of the Marlin X7VH in 22-250 rem left at this fantastic price of $499. So first in with the dollars will get the last at these prices.
Tikka T3 Synthetic $945. Layby $990. Phone for the best price if you would like Stainless or Walnut, or laminated stocks.
Remington Model 7600 Pump Action .308 w 22 inch barrel. $1350. Any Inquiries on any products phone 07 54824099 or 07 54825070 or email email@example.com
TO ORDER. Details should include Name of card, ie Visa or Mastercard. Name on Card. Number on Card, Expiry Date of Card, 3 secret numbers on the rear of the card. Your home phone or mobile number. How you want it sent to you, ie mail or road freight. The address you want it sent to. Describe which item you want to purchase. On our website we also have shooting articles and important firearm information for the gun enthusiast. New firearm related material is being added every day. Any Inquiries on any products phone 07 54824099 or 07 54825070 or email firstname.lastname@example.org Owen Guns have always tried to give the best advice and the best price for the best quality to their customers.
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Scope Package Out of Stock, hoping to get some more soon.
The JW 15 sometimes known as the Chinese Brno, the Norinco or the Puma. The best value .22 Rifle on the market. $195 Synthetic or Wood. As many of you are aware, the Jain Wia Model 15, or JW 15 Norinco, or JW Puma is a copy of the old bolt action Model 1 BRNO. It has been on the market for years and has a well earned reputation as a reliable accurate work horse. Basically the rifle is simple, but has a large bolt, that has diametrically opposed double locking lugs, (not just locking on the bolt handle) which has the advantage of safer lock up behind the cartridge and broader locking surfaces that resist head space wear, as a high point on a single locking lug can quickly wear and the shooter will experience cartridge rims blowing out due to the excess headspace. It has a simple 5 round magazine which is steel and a steel magazine holder, all features that are sometimes missing on firearms that cost $1000 or more. They have simple trigger system almost identical to the Brno Model 1 that we all had no problem adjusting in the 1960s. The wooden stock is not walnut, it’s just a simple stock made of some unspecified Chinese wood, which has properties similar to Walnut. Rough on the inside but these day have an attractive oil finished on the outside, blink the eye and it looks like a CZ American Classic without the price tag. The action at first is not silky smooth like a Tikka, its a little gritty, but plenty of use, or take off the sharp edges with a fine wet and dry paper and it soon smooths down into a nice action. The same goes for the trigger as it is no frills, just require a little TLC on the adjustment and it always works. Forget the safety catch, you would need to be a Russian weightlifter, or a Japanese Sumo wrestler to get it on and off, but all rifles are safe if the bolt is open and deadly dangerous when closed. No safety ever should be trusted, the bolt is much more visible and can be much easily visually checked by all present. My old JW Norinco is primarily a rabbit rifle. Countless rabbits have been sent to the happy hunting ground, and in the early 1990s I did get a AAA second in the Metallic Silhouettes Nationals and State Champions with it. In essence this is what the JW 15 is built for, it’s a hunting tool that is reliable and solidly built which can be used at the range for plinking and starting on the competition circuits. My JW is also accurate, at 100 metres using Eley Club, I can get a 5 shot group in less than an inch. I have seen it out shoot many more expensive rifles at the range. It is one of the rifles that I will never sell as it has earned my faith and trust in all of the endeavours I have asked for it, and will continue to do so for many years to come. Also at $195. they are the best value .22lr on the Australian market. So do yourself a favour and go get yourself one or two, you will be pleasantly surprised. Ron
In .270 w and 300 win mag XPR Winchester Bolt Action $850.
WHY OWEN GUNS does not have SHOPPING BASKETS?? But has CONTACT MAIL ORDER Instead.
Mail order , in the Firearm industry has been getting a bad reputation of late, besides the Asia off shore internet mail order houses selling Fake Branded Rifle scopes with clear plastic instead of glass lenses, reticule adjusters that don’t work, but have a red and green illuminated cross hair, all with quality Brand names on the packaging, we have on shore Australian internet sites that offer you human service we encourage our mail order customers to make prior contact, to confirm that we have, just the stock you require, and you know exactly how much the freight component will cost you. It only takes a quick call to 07 54825070 or 0754824099 in shop hours 9 am to 5 pm on weekdays and 9am to 4pm on Saturdays, or fax to 07 54824718 with your credit card details, or email email@example.com emails and fax will be confirmed with freight component before dispatch. We want to encourage contact between our staff and customers, we want to make friends with our customers, some of who have been customers for over 40 years. If we fail, we want to know about it, so we can remedy it. Contact is the only way for lasting customer friendships to exist.
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