Owen Guns Bulletin June 2009 No 18
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This is the (Jain Way) JW Model 105, Sometimes called Norinco. These rifles are made in the same factory that manufactures the now famous JW 15 .22 rifle (the Brno Mod One Copy) if you have had a JW15 or know of anyone who had one, you will know that they shoot sometimes better than the rifle they imitated. These JW105 s are in .223 Remington calibre and have a five shot detachable magazine. They also come with Weaver style mount bases and Quick Detachable studs for QD sling swivels If you look carefully at the close up photograph you will notice a shiny silver colour, at the breech face,the camera has picked up the chrome plating from inside the chamber. The Chinese are the only non-military manufactures that can afford the chrome process of plating the Barrels and Chambers. They have also chromed the forward section of the Bolt. Chrome plating gives the best protection against erosion and corrosion than anything else besides regular cleaning. The JW 105 is a copy of the Geveram that was very popular in the 1950s and 1960s, they were very good quality but I believe that Gevarm had to stop making them as the were too expensive to produce.
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Accurate Firearm Design
Firearm Chamber Design Sizes
Which factors control the various lengths of chambers for rifles? Both cartridge case and entire loaded cartridge, as commercially produced, vary slightly in length as well as diameter, and the chamber must be long enough to take the maximum cartridge case. If it is longer than this then, with the normal or minimum length cases, gas in abnormal amounts will escape at the mouth of the case where the case ends and the chamber is larger, and will cause faster erosion and mediocre accuracy. Also in certain cases (see Diagram 3 (e) in Edition 16) where the mouth of the case supports the cartridge against the blow of the firing pin, mis-fires and hang-fires may occur. Also with straight cases having no bottle-neck the case may stretch in a long chamber, and rupture, and we may have the same dangerous condition and liability to serious accident as when the chamber is too large in diameter at the rear.
The length of chamber is important also when the shooter reloads his ammunition. When fired, the case expands slightly in length, and after it has been loaded and fired a number of times it will have lengthened materially. Usually the lengthening of the case that occurs through firing is seven or eight times, (three or four times with the .220 Swift and several other cartridges) that is not much of a problem but that chambers properly cut in length for the max cartridge case will take this slightly lengthened case. But if one continues to reload his cases a large number of times, he finally has to trim them at the mouth to bring them back to standard length so they will be a proper and safe fit in the chamber. If a cartridge having a case slightly too long for the chamber is loaded, the bolt may force the cartridge up so tightly against the mouth or front end of the chamber as to crimp the mouth of the case so tightly on the bullet, and the chamber mouth so firmly support this crimp against any expansion when fired, that chamber pressure will be dangerously increased, and also poor accuracy will result.
New brass cases, will seldom differ more than .010 inch in overall length between max and min. Except with cases like , Diagram 3 (e) in Edition 16) in the absence of an authoritative drawing of the cartridge showing max and min lengths, if a number of new and unfired and unloaded cases are measured for overall length, the longest may be taken as a maximum. Then the chamber may be cut with a length from face of breech bolt or block to front end where the neck of the chamber begins to bevel to bore diameter, about .015-inch longer than this assumed max length of case.
Diagram 5. A Wildcat Cartridge and Chamber
This drawing was made from the actual model of a cut-open a 7mm belted wildcat chamber, a rechambering job on an old 7 mm Mauser rifle. The model and weight of rifle was by no means suitable for this job of rechambering, but the owner went ahead and had the job done and shot the rifle extensively.
This shows a belted case which has been fitted into a chamber of splendid dimensions for the cartridge, with one exception. The mouth of this case fits entirely too snugly against the end of the chamber and a considerable rise in pressures could be expected if these cases were fired without their neck length being trimmed back about .02″ by an accurate neck trimmer. Shooters of these powerful wildcat combinations should have a sulphur cast made of the chamber of their rifle and to check same carefully against the cartridges cases used, and then put a neck trimmer to work if its use is needed.
Note how snugly the bullet fits in the leade or bullet seat, and the close fit of the rim and rear of the body of the cartridge in the rear of the chamber, thus straightening up the entire cartridge in line with the axis of the bore. Also note that there is a slight clearance between the forward body and neck of the case and the corresponding chamber walls, allowing these portions of the case to expand when fired. The slight expansion of the neck allows the bullet to leave the case neck easily without running the pressures up. Also when gas pressure drops to zero after the bullet has left the muzzle, these forward portions of the case spring back and free themselves from the chamber walls, making extraction of the fired case easier.
There is another very important length measurement of the chamber, so important in fact that we will have to discuss it at some length. It is obvious that the cartridge case must be fully supported against the face of the breech block or bolt, both in order that the firing pin can strike the primer a hard sharp blow, and so that there will be no looseness between the face of the bolt and the head of the case that might be the cause of an accident such as previously described. The support within a tolerance of .015 to .020 inch furnished by cutting the chamber to correct overall length is not sufficiently close enough for this purpose. The head of the case must be held back tight against the face of the bolt by a shoulder on the case which abuts against a similar shoulder in the chamber. The location and character of this chamber shoulder differs with each of the various types of cartridge cases shown in Diagram 3 in Edition 16) .
The distance in length from the face of the breech bolt or block to this shoulder is known as “headspace.” In a barrel which uses a rimmed cartridge (Diagram 3 (‘A’ &’B’) in Edition 16 and also the semi-rimless case ‘f’) headspace is the distance from the shoulder of the chamber on which the forward surface of the extracting rim of the cartridge rests to the front face of the breech block or bolt. It should not be greater than the max thickness from front to rear of the rim of the cartridge case; in fact it should be this exact dimension so that the block or bolt will close tight on a cartridge head of maximum thickness. If this headspace is too great misfires and hangfires, poor ignition, and poor accuracy will occur, particularly if a rim-fire cartridge is used.
This .50 cal had 25 thou excess Headspace which explained why it had a recoil problem.
If it is too small then it will be frequently impossible to completely close the breech mechanism on a cartridge that has a thicker rim than normal.
With the chamber for the rimmed cartridge, after the barrel has been drilled, reamed, and rifled the breech of the bore is reamed out roughly to a slightly smaller size than the eventual chamber as shown in Diagram 4 (A) Edition 16. Then the barrel is threaded at the breech and screwed tightly into the receiver.
Next the finishing chamber reamer is run into the rough chamber, and frequently gauged for depth with the headspace gauge until the actual bolt or breech block to be used in the completed rifle will just barely close on the gauge. The bolt should close on the gauge without any compression, but just a slight “feel” of the gauge in the final closing of the bolt. A gunsmith making a chambering one barrel may examine a large number of cartridges of several makes until he finds one that has slightly larger dimensions than normal, and use this for a max gauge, but this is not good practice, and should not be used in quantity production, or in making a rifle for any but a very well informed shooter.
A word here as to chamber and headspace gauges. In proper practice the original designer of a cartridge constructs at least two chamber gauges for it, a max and a min gauge, or a GO and a NO-GO gauge. These original gauges are deposited in the gauge laboratory of the factory that makes the cartridge and rifles for it, and are termed “master gauges,” and are used only for reference to be certain that the “working gauges” are of absolutely correct dimensions and shape. Chamber gauges are shaped just like cartridges, and are made of hardened and seasoned steel with great care to,00001 inch ( one tenth, of one thousandth of an inch) by a gauge maker, the highest type of machinist. When not in use gauges should be coated with a rust inhibiting grease, and should be wrapped in greased paper. They must be handled with great care, should never be dropped, and when used the extractor should always be removed from the rifle. To remove a gauge from a chamber push it out gently with a cleaning rod used from the muzzle. The bolt or block should never be closed down tightly on a gauge that appears to be a little large for a chamber as that would often so compress the gauge as to ruin it. In usual practice there are GO and NO-GO gauges, and there may be others also as will be seen below. The bolt or block of the rifle should close easily on the GO gauge, showing that the chamber is large and deep (long) enough, but it should not close on the NO-GO gauge, which will show that the chamber is not too large or long.
A headspace gauge is similar to a chamber gauge, but is constructed to measure the headspace only, all other dimensions being smaller than normal so they will not interfere. A gauge will show a chamber of its exact dimensions if, when the bolt is closed the last small fraction of an inch with very gentle finger pressure, the bolt face can be felt to just touch or barely press on the head of the gauge. Again, never press down hard on a gauge.
30-06, .308, 22 LR riim Go on the left No go on the right
Headspace Gauges
These are the usual standard Forster headspace gauges used for the inspection of chambers in firearms. They are constructed of hardened and seasoned steel, and their length from shoulder to base is exact with the master gauges retained in the gauge laboratory. They must be handled carefully, no force or compression must be applied on them when the bolt is closed, and they must not be permitted to rust. They have an extraction groove at the base, but in practice it is best to remove the extractor from the rifle bolt when using them, and to push them gently out of the chamber after use by a cleaning rod inserted from the muzzle.
The GO gauge is the minimum gauge. Every rifle must accept this gauge, and the bolt must turn down easily and completely on it to indicate that the chamber and headspace are not too tight and that the rifle will accept normal cartridges.
The NO GO gauge is the maximum gauge. No firearm should be permitted to leave a manufacturer if it will accept this gauge. Also if a firearm will accept this gauge its action or chamber headspace this will effect accuracy slightly, but the acceptance of this gauge does not indicate that the rifle is unsafe or unserviceable.
The NO GO gauge is the absolute maximum gauge for field use. If this is accepted into your chamber get some advice from a professional firearm gunsmith/engineer.
Edition 19 more information on headspace. Understanding headspace is at the very heart of all firearm technology. It is one of the most important concepts that should be understood by all shooters, Headspace is not just the vacuum between the ears.
Understanding Reloading Ammunition
Measuring the Powder. The Powder Measure
For all practical purposes, the only disadvantage possessed by a good scale is that it is slow of operation. An experienced operator can throw twenty charges with a measure in the length of time it takes to weigh out one with the average scale. For that reason, I personally always use a measure and for hot or more important loads by throwing charges slightly under into the scale pan adding powder via Trickler to the correct weight. A good set of scales and the knowledge of how best to use them is always needed to test and adjust the Powder Measure and for loading small quantities where the time spent in setting up the Powder Measure is not really justified.
C-H fixed charge Powder measure is only altered by using a drill or a bush.
As stated previously, a powder measure will meter out whatever volume of powder it is set to produce. The actual weight of this volume of powder doesn’t even enter into the measure’s functioning. Like making the decision from loading data tables, it is up to you, the operator, to determine what volume of the powder involved will weigh the correct amount, then set up the measure to throw that particular charge. The measure will then throw that volume charge repetitively forever without caring the least what it weighs. That’s your problem.
Except in certain instances where a very great many of the same powder charge must be thrown, a fixed charge measure is not practical. Therefore, the most common measures on the market have adjustable metering chambers. Then, with a single measure, it is possible to adjust and lock the chamber to throw any reasonable volume of any powder available.
Adjustable measures come generally in two styles. The one uses a rotating drum containing a hole within which is an adjustable plug. This drum is beneath the column of powder in the reservoir and is rotated so that powder flows by gravity into the chamber, then the drum is rotated roughly 180°, sealing off the reservoir and dumping the powder out of the chamber and into your case or measure or scale pan through a drop tube. This type is characterized by having a constantly changing “head” of powder over the measuring chamber, and this is often said to cause undue variation in charge weight due to its changing of density by vibration and reduction at one end and topping up at the other.
The other type of adjustable measure is typified by the very old Belding and Mull design which utilizes a separate horizontally sliding chamber to transfer powder from the reservoir to a constant volume chamber from which it may flow into an adjustable metering chamber or tube. The metering tube is generally held in the hands and after it is filled, the powder is poured manually into the case. This type is typified by a constant head of powder over the metering chamber and is generally thought to give superior accuracy and uniformity, though it is substantially slower in use. Very few of this type are still in use.
Lee V type chamber and RCBS drum type chamber
The reason for the alleged differences in charge uniformity between the two types is simply that the weight of a tall column of powder tends to compact powder in the metering chamber, and, as this weight varies, from powder being consumed, the degree of compaction will also vary. In theory, the last few charges from such a measure when nearly empty will weigh less than the first few thrown when the reservoir was full. This makes sense when one considers that as much as a full pound of powder may be contained in some tubes and this pressure may be compared with only an ounce or so when the reservoir is nearly empty. On the other hand, the sliding transfer chamber of the Belding and Mull type measure always has the same head of powder, about an ounce or two at most. The pressure it exerts on the powder in the metering chamber will always be reasonably uniform. Much of this can be addressed by not allowing the tube/ reservoir to get to empty.
In recent years, though, baffles have been introduced for the rotary-drum type measures. In some instances, these have consisted simply of a metal washer or perforated plastic disc fixed a couple inches above the bottom of the reservoir.
With both types, powder above the baffle flows into the lower portion of the reservoir, but the piled-up powder blocks off the small space through which it flows before the secondary chamber can be completely filled. Consequently, when a charge is thrown, an amount of powder approximately equal to it flows into the secondary chamber from the reservoir and thus maintains a constant head of powder for every charge thrown.
Rotary Drum from a RCBS Powder measure showing chamber on the left.
It goes without saying that moving parts of powder measures must be very closely fitted. For example, if the rotating drum is not fitted with virtually no clearance into the housing, fine-kernel powders (such as Bullseye) may work their way into the space between drum and housing and cause vibration and difficult operation. Difficult movement of the drum and/or vibration will cause variations in the powder charge thrown. This is simple enough to understand when we consider that any such outside influence will cause the powder granules to settle or compact in the metering chamber. When this occurs, more kernels are contained in the chamber, thus the charge thrown is heavier. It is essential, then, that one be able to operate the measure very smoothly and uniformly. It has been proven many times that the uniformity of charges thrown by a measure is much more dependent upon the skill and uniformity of the operator than upon the measure’s design.
All measures are equipped with stops which control the movement of the metering chamber, bringing it to a halt at the proper position for filling from the reservoir and for discharging the metered charge into the case. Easing the handle up against the stop on the filling stroke will cause a light charge to be thrown, while slamming it vigorously against the stop will produce a heavy charge. The impact and vibration of the handle striking the stop will cause the powder to compact or settle in the metering chamber, therefore allowing more powder to be contained.
Irregular movement and vibration of the measure caused by unstable mounting will have the same effect. When small kernel powders such as Bullseye or ball-type powders are being measured, the drum may be rotated with relative freedom. However, when large-kernel extruded powders such as IMR 4831 are being measured, one or several individual kernels will occasionally be caught between the lip of the metering chamber and the opposing lip in the bottom of the reservoir. This makes considerable additional force necessary to cut the offending grains, and the vibration and impact resulting can cause charge variation. It is my personal practice to return all such charges to the reservoir rather than dump them into the case. Of course, if you are simply throwing underweight charges into the scale pan, this effect will be negligible. Because of the effect that impact, vibration, and movement have on charge weight, it was once more or less standard practice to attach a “knocker” to powder measures. The venerable Lyman adjustable measure (which is still on the market and nearly twice as old as I am) was so fitted. The principle of the knocker was simply that one compensated for variations introduced by other factors by giving one, two, or three sharp raps on the measure housing with the knocker while the metering chamber was picking up its charge. In this way, a deliberate attempt was made to secure uniform settling and compaction of the powder in the metering chamber before cutting it off, and thus offset other lesser variations. Today, however, knockers are not in fashion and I know of no other measure on the market that comes equipped with one.
Boiled down, the following conditions must be met to obtain maximum uniformity with a rotating drum type measure:
The Powder Measure must be rigidly mounted so as not to shift or vibrate while in operation; a constant head of powder should be maintained, with a baffles if you can ger them or make them; all operating parts must fit closely and be clean and dry and permit free movement; the handle must be moved smoothly and evenly with equal velocity and brought to a stop at both ends of the stroke with equal force; and, the adjustable metering chamber must be very accurately set in the beginning and locked securely so that it cannot come loose and shift during operation. In addition to that, the operator must take the time to practice with the individual measure and to carefully weigh practice charges to determine what effect variations in his technique of operation will produce. Once the most accurate technique is determined for a particular measure, then it should, always be used with that measure. Next Edition More on Measuring Powder
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Thought For Week
My thoughts for the week have been that its about time shooters flexed their numerical muscles again, governments are vulnerable and majorities are about to whittled. Many might say we have done all that before and it didn’t work, we are used to the chains of bureaucracy that binds us and if we speak up they could make it worse. That is rubbish, if they could have made it worse, they would have done so, already.
They have no compassion for us, the depths of slavery are only contained by how hard we kick against them. Two factors are now on our side, economic woes of government, and a recent growth in people joining the shooters fraternities clubs. All the contrived dictatorial time wasting they concocted for licensed shooters has not worked and it is now a growing sport. They have to spend a lot of money to keep their system working when its politically un-acceptable to waste money in useless causes.
In Canada they spent billions over six years implementing a firearm long arm registration system, before scrapping the whole scheme as un workable. We all could have told them that. C-391 to the second session, Fortieth Parliament House of Commons Canada. An Act to amend, (repeal of long-gun registry) First Reading, May 15th, 2009. If our Canadian cousins can do this so can we.
Please read the letter I sent to the Police Minister in June 1996 that’s thirteen years ago. My prophecy came true and the National Party lost everything, they do not exist any more. If you are tired of being hunted and obstructed by State and Federal Police plus the Australian Custom Service just send me a quick email and I will respond with idea- guidelines for making changes and rolling back the gun laws. The alternative which is to do nothing is that gradually they will make legislation worse, they will make us pay again for our own punishment.
Ron Owen
Firearm Owners Association of Australia
PO Box 346
GYMPIE 4570
Minister for Police and Corrective Services
Honourable Russell Cooper MLA
8 June, 1996
Dear Russell,
You will more than likely receive this letter via the newspapers as this seems to be the medium that you have chosen to communicate with the Firearm Owners and myself. I received your letter to me of the 7th of June courtesy of the Courier Mail, Queensland Newspapers. (How did they get my mail??)
Your letter saddens me greatly, as I wished to personally see you on a face to face basis and point out that if you wish to retain any dignity whatsoever, you should resign from your position as a Minister of the Crown. It was reported by Hansard, on the 12th April 1994, page 7440, that you stated
“… to regiment gun owners into a permit based or licensed based register. Demonstrably, that attempt has been a dismal failure and the basic thrust of the Act has not been achieved. In roughly rounded figures, 250,000 licences have been issued, yet there are an estimated one million gun owners in Queensland”.
“Responsible, law abiding citizens who have sought and obtained appropriate licences are not the people whom weapon control legislation should be, to use an apt term, aimed at. Clearly hundreds of thousands of guns exist in the community in the possession of unlicensed people.”
How can you, as Minister of Police, be telling the truth then AND now. Were you lying to parliament then or are you lying now. One way or the other, you have lied to Parliament which is sufficient cause for your resignation. Perfidy by a Police Minister destroys public confidence and lowers Police morale. This is bad enough, but Russell you have compounded it by doing a complete reversal of your electoral policy on which you were elected. A letter from your electorate office, 67 McDowall Street, Roma addressed To The Gun Owner, stated
“I am not of the view that regulation and licensing is the answer.”
“The answer to the increase in violent crime in Australia does not lie in licensing gun owners and imposing unbearable restrictions”
“Licensing restrictions only treat sporting shooters, hunters and land owners as criminals and have no effect whatsoever on the real criminal bent on destruction.”
You would also have to resign from parliament, as the elected representative for Crows Nest you are not representing the wishes of your electorate. You have bunkered down in the concrete citadels. Doubt me if you dare, call a public debate in your electorate, I don’t mind coming and debating it with you in public. Ask the floor what their resolution is, both you and I know what their answer will be Russell.
You would also have to resign from the National Party, your reversal on the National Party platform policy has finished your party as a political force in Queensland. Your dishonour has put them in a position where, even if you back down again and do another 180 degree reversal, it will be to late, only political oblivion awaits the National Party because of your betrayal.
What makes all this sadder for me is that I have admired you as an intelligent human being who seemed to possess what is rare in a politician these days, an independence of mind and a quiet toughness, unlike the pasty faced wimps that usually confront us on the six o clock news. However, after the last few weeks of watching you shame yourself by attempting to plug up your leaking bath by saying that we have it all wrong and that we are extremist and scare mongering, you, as a firearm owner yourself have even spoken at our Firearm Owners Brisbane Branch meetings. You are fully aware that John Howard s Australasian resolutions impact on every firearm owner in this state, even if they only have an air rifle. You have got your copy of the resolutions, I have mine, I don’t think there are two different versions. When these resolutions are explained at public meeting in Gympie, Brisbane, Nambour, Kingaroy, Rockhampton, Cairns, Emerald, the people are horrified at what you are attempting to do.
I honestly will find it impossible to believe anything you ever say again without corroborative evidence or a weight of probability. So it saddens me and leaves me to wonder what sort of country I’m bringing my daughter up in.
Is it necessary for a politician to break promises and be willing to commit any atrocity to further his career in today s Australia? This hypothesis would account for a lot of what you have said in the last few weeks.
Be they evil or not, Ministers are supposed to be answerable to parliament and it should be axiomatic in a constitutional democracy that when a diminution or withdrawal of liberty is proposed, it is incumbent upon those who propose it to justify their case to the parliament.
If we had a state or federal parliament that operated constitutionally, we would have parliamentarians who represented their constituents and not be controlled by the totalitarian coalition of party hierarchy. Then we firearm owners would not be looking into the legislative apocalypse that faces us today. ie. confiscation of our property and the registration of what you decide to leave with us with until next time. Russell you have made no case whatsoever, we firearm owners have been accused, arrested, tried, convicted and persecuted, with no opportunity to say a word in our defence.You have produced no research, you have failed to demonstrate the existence of a problem requiring legislative correction, you have failed to demonstrate a probable benefit derived from any of the measures proposed and you have indeed stated that you don’t intend to. To be sure we have asked for that proof but the requests have been ignored.
Russell, you now say “but should these people be allowed to own such things” the fact that you own guns that are outlawed in your own white paper speaks loudly of your hypocrisy, and deceit. You used to want to speak at Firearm Owners Association meetings, you used to want to know us when you were a customer of “Owen Guns” and you wanted your semi-automatic rifles repaired. You wanted to know Lock Stock and Barrel when you wanted a quote for us to print a small newspaper for you. What has changed Russell?.
In your invitation on the 3rd of June you regarded the Firearm Owners as a peak stakeholder, on the 7th of June you suggest that we are not a responsible organisation and that our members do not engage in legitimate shooting and related pursuits. Is this another 180 degree change Russell, when can you be loyal to anyone?
Yes I do agree you are correct in one major part of your letter of the 7th and would have been disappointed if you had considered that I would have thought otherwise. The executive of the Firearm Owners Association and myself and the resolutions of each and every meeting remain intolerant and inflexible and we are not prepared to seek to accommodate any spirit of the resolutions of John Howard s special police ministers conference. In fact the resolutions at every one of our meetings is for our association to accept only the coalition proposals on which you were elected a few short months ago. Don’t you remember your promises, only a licence if we wanted one and a prohibited persons register – instead of the 1990 Weapons Act.
If it is true that your main reason for withdrawing your invitation is that I remain intolerant and inflexible and not prepared to accommodate the spirit of the resolutions, then it would follow that all the major organisations that you meet with are prepared to accommodate those resolutions.
Yes I do agree, that some major organisations such as the SSAA are seriously embarrassed in the on going debate, the SSAA is to be investigated by the Criminal Justice Commission for making underhanded deals with Wayne Goss and the Labor party and they are now again ready to seek deals with yourself compromising the rights of their members. Yes, that is embarrassing. The Firearm Owners will never compromise or negotiate with the rights of the firearm owners of this state or any other in Australia, yes that’s what embarrasses them, we are not turncoats. Yes, these associations who have stated to their members that they believe letters from Wayne Goss, are all embarrassed when the Labor party betrays them.
Yes, admittedly we do speak up and yes the media, hacks and chops and sticks together what ever story it wishes to present. You of all people know that the media do this. If you had wished to check anything, a full unedited transcript would have been and still is, available to you.
We are appalled at the extremism of what you are attempting to do to our country, our rights and our property. We did check the resolutions of the police minister meeting and did check that you really intended to implement them. You could have given us the benefit of checking the authenticity of the reports before you became appalled about us. It matters little now the die is cast.
If you would prefer to debate this issue with equal conditions and time in Gympie and if you have an explanation as to why your beliefs keep turning around, please let us know what nights you have available within the next few weeks and we will provide a venue and an audience of our members to patiently listen to the next Russell Cooper story.
Yours
Ron Owen.
(Strangely,this letter was never answered by the Police Minister, he just implemented John Howards Gun Laws.
This is how many Australian shooters felt about the Gun Laws
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