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Gun Law Reform September 18, 2011



Rifles like these even a 100 years old will be handed in for no compensation.

Rifles like these even a 100 years old will be handed in for no compensation.

If we do nothing, Queensland will make law in Mid October 2011 banning centre fire rifles which have a built in magazine capacity of over 10 shots, pump actions, lever actions anything that can take 11 shots,  will have to be handed in for NO compensation. That means Model 1866 (Henry) Winchester, Model 1873 Winchesters, Model 1892 Winchester’s 1873, likewise Browning, Marlin, Remington, Rossi, Puma, Colt Lighting, Chiappa, Uberti, Henry, Timberwolf, and  Remington Pumps, one in the chamber puts the rifles built in magazine capacity at 11and if you have done the right thing and registered that rifle you will have to hand it in for no compensation. There are many more sad, idiotic, sections of legislation in the Weapons Amendment Bill of 2011  WeaponsAmB11 which enpowers the government to misuse its power, by stealing lawfully owned property from law abiding citizens.

Have no doubt about it,we who have experienced the way that legislation is interpreted by courts and police know  that that the government is the largest criminal organisation in Australia. It steals property and destroys its opponents, that is criminal.

We have all hoped for change, we dream of a political group that will appear on a white charger and lead us to victory. We have hoped that Labour will lose the next election in Queensland. Currently that will make no difference as the ‘Shadow Minister for Police’ who if Labour loses, will be the next Police Minister John-Paul Mr LANGBROEK is an absolute anti gun moron.

In his speech on this proposed bill on the 8th September 2011  HANSARD 2011_09_08 Scroll down to Weapons Amendment Act, read for yourself here are some excepts,  he says’,
“the safety of Queenslanders is one of our top priorities”. (Yet he disarms us?)

“In the 15 years since these radical reforms were introduced, it is clear that there has been success in controlling gun use. There has not been another massacre like that which occurred at Port Arthur all those years ago.” ( he has forgotten that Queensland massacres are done with a box of matches as in Childers Palace Fire – In June 2000, Robert Long killed 15 people, and the Whiskey Au Go Go fire in 1973 which killed another 15 people. How is he going to keep Queenslanders safe from boxes of matches)  THE TRUTH ABOUT GUNS,CRIME AND VIOLENCE RESULTS OF THE ’96/’97 AUSTRALIAN GUN LAWS & “BUYBACK.
The Mr Langbroek, shadow minster for Police, continued with;
“the introduction of an approved safety training course as a prerequisite for registration. Key recommendations to address these issues include introducing online processing of licence applications and permits and introducing new fees for selected weapons transactions”
(He is clueless, he mixes up registration with licenses and does not know we have had a training course before licence for over ten years, and  fee’s for licences and permits have recently risen 126%)

“Members are now required to manually complete a form for a permit to acquire—or PTA—whereas with the old system it was computer generated. Delays in the issue of PTAs have extended to months, and a prerecorded telephone message was used by Weapons Licensing to advise callers that they should expect delays and not to call.” (He has the delay right but PTA applications have never been computer generated)

“In every state of Australia, the debate over gun control ignites considerable passion and it is important to dispel some myths. There has never been an unfettered right for Australians to possess firearms for any reason including self-defence.” (The Bill of Rights 1689,  does that it laid out certain basic rights for all Englishmen. These rights continue to apply today, not only in England and Wales, but in each of the jurisdictions of the Commonwealth realms as well.
“Disarming Protestants, &c.
By causing severall good Subjects being Protestants to be disarmed at the same time when Papists were both Armed and Employed contrary to Law.
Subjects’ Arms.
That the Subjects which are Protestants may have Arms for their Defence suitable to their Conditions and as allowed by Law. ” This was re-introduced and still stands in Queenslands laws under the Imperial Acts Applications Act of 1984. Mr LANGBROEK is totally unaware of the legislation that he is tampering with.)

 Langbroek continues “Even the United States Constitution, which is often misquoted by proponents of gun ownership, does not confer such a right. The second amendment to the US Constitution states— “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”
That is a very different proposition from the belief that every individual should have the right to possess whatever weapons they wish. ( Anyone who can read the English language can understand, “the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed”, is he an imbecile? He is only a Dentist but he should be able to understand simple words)

Langbroek continues “Even licensed, they serve no useful purpose in a civilised society. I acknowledge that there are those people who enjoy shooting exotic weapons either recreationally or competitively, and there are provisions in the legislation for them to do so. Their concerns about restrictions on owning and operating firearms have been heard.
I acknowledge that professional, recreational or competitive shooters who observe weapon control legislation do not necessarily pose a risk to the community at large, but that does not give them an automatic right to possess whatever weapons in whatever quantity they wish.”
(So this gives him the right to advocate the removal of our property, what arrogance.)

Langbroek continues “The respected criminologist Professor Paul Wilson was quoted in that Brisbane Times article Professor Wilson said the increase in gun ownership was ‘worrying’. He said— “The evidence is fairly clear; the more guns a community has, the more chances there are of crimes.”  (This is same Paul Wilson that wrote the incorrect ‘Hell Town'( about Gympie) article in Australian pornographic Penthouse magazine, he is a frequent contributor, he supports the Sex party, legalisation of drugs and opposes legislation of ‘Bikie’ Gangs, and Langbroek things he is ‘respected’)

Langbroek continues “I take this opportunity to thank the minister and his staff from the department for the briefing I received in relation to this bill.” (It shows who he takes notice of, who would vote for the LNP when they are just as rotten as the Labour Party taking their breif form the Police )
Langbroek continues; Particularly, these issues are covered by the first stage of the amendment process, which we will not be opposing.” (This bill is the first stage, they have another ready in the wings)

We must STOP this Bill.

This Bill is bad law, it doubles penalties for many offences such as not signing the range register at the club, and makes knives Category M so they have to be licensed and registered. Can you open them with one hand, such as a paper knife, or a Stanley knife or even a pair of scissors. The interpretation is up to the police and their courts.

Langbroek also states, “There are currently more 155,000 firearm licence holders in Queensland, 14,622 of whom are in the Gold Coast region. In a report from the Brisbane Times it was found that the number of new gun licences issued across Queensland increased 19 per cent, from 12,818 to 15,260.”

Which is rubish anyway as figures releases in 1998 put the licenced holders in Queensland at 120,000, and with the published increases of 19% or even 12,818 extra per year makes nonsense of either or all the figures he is producing. We do know that there has been massive increases as Safety Course Instructors have been reporting that over the last five years. We know that Weapons Licencing Branch cannot cope with the increases in Licence applications and Permits to Acquire so have pushed this legislation so to limit the amount of firearms on the registry and the remove as many shooters off their books as soon as possible.

This has to be Stopped.
If there are only licenced 155,000 shooters in Queensland, plus the unknown number of un licensed then with their wives and friends that puts a voting figure of at least 310,000. That is the largest voting group in this country. This number of votes can make or break ever parliament in Australia. The largest political party this nation has ever seen was the National Party in the 1980s with 60,000 members, since they betrayed the Firearm Owners in 1997 and again with the banning of handguns in 2003 that has dwindled so far that to remain in existence they have had to amalgamatewith the Liberals into the LNP. I told Russel Cooper in 1996 “if they implented the John Howard laws that the National Part M.Ps would travleing to parlaiment in a mini bus”.  Since then the National Party imploded and with Langbroek stance is now facing impending doom.

 We have to Act in a unified way.
Now knowing that the LNP are going to vote with Labour on this further Gun Ban,  Rather than allow our elected members of parliament to hide behind anonymity, we would like to force them to make their vote public and for that vote to be recorded in Hansard. At least we can then deal with those who vote for it at soon coming election. To this end the Shooters Union phoned Liz Cunningham, the independent member for Gladstone. (Remember this courageous woman? She stood alone and voted against the amendments to the Weapons Act in 1996 which resulted in registration, compulsory club membership, the requirement for fixed term licences, PTAs etc). They asked if she would call for a division, so that the names of each and every individual who votes for this Bill is recorded  ( Very useful at the coming election.) She said that she already planned to do so but to have the names of those voting against the bill recorded, there have to be five votes against. There are only five Independents and one of those Peter Wellington is a Labour party swinging voter anyway, so we need to let all of parliament know that shooters are a unified force and that we can act together. Earlier this year Labour withdrew its Weapons Amendment Bill due to receiving 2500 submissions opposing it, before the next debate on this Bill Tuesday 11th October, contact your local politician, by phone, but preferably by email, or letter, advising her/him to vote against the bill .


This link  will take you to a complete list of all Queensland politicians.


Either print out the submission below or  post, or hand it in at your local members office, or cut and paste this into an email send it to your local member of parliament or all on the list, but do something, or we all lose our rights and property.


Name ………………………………….
………………………………….P/c……………  Telephone Num…………………………………

To my State Representative


It is my submission that you do not vote or support the Weapons Amendment Bill of 2011.
It does not serve justice on individual wrong doers and collectively punishes the innocent by removing their rights to own property that they lawfully are entitled to do. It gives no compensation for this property.
Please pass my submission to the Police Minister, as I do not wish him to support this Bill and will never vote for anyone that votes or supports this Bill.


Sign …………………………………….                            


To Add more Reasons. Say this.
1.Banning firearms with over 10 shot capacity will not reduce crime and make Queensland a safer place.
2. Increased penalties on licensed shooters does not prevent crimes against the public.
3. Banning knives does not solve a knife problem; it only places restrictions on law abiding members of the community, such as Butchers, Chefs, Farmers, (Farmers have already been charged for having stock knives is a belt pouch. When they come into town)
4. all of the increased regulations on firearms do nothing to make the community safer, or to prevent or solve weapons crimes. They only place restrictions on the law abiding.

If you want any other material to aim at these politicians go to

Guns make it easier to kill and injure people.  Therefore, it is obvious to any  fool that reducing the prevalence of guns will reduce the prevalence of death and injury.  But, what about people who aren’t fools? Read the above Links.

 And also on Australian Bureau of Statistics.

 “In April 2005, there were 15,966,900 persons aged 15 years and over living in private dwellings in Australia. In the 12 months prior to the survey it was estimated that:
     58,900 (0.4%) persons were victims of at least one robbery
    770,600 (4.8%) persons were victims of at least one assault
    44,100 (0.3%) persons aged 18 years and over were victims of at least one sexual assault.
Unlawful entry with intent  248 475
In total 841,500 persons aged 15 years and over were victims of one or  more of these selected personal crimes, equating to an overall personal victimisation prevalence rate of 5.3%. Is this making Australia a safer place?
Out of 258 murders in 2008
Firearm was            31
Knife was                87
Bat/Chemicals           9
Other weapons        35
 And NO weapons were used in 85 murders how is Mr Landbroek going to legislate to stop the 85 murders that people have committed with there  hands. Amputate every ones right hand?

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