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Owen Guns Bulletin Edition 30 November 2009

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‘Back in stock again still at the same Special Price’ The Brno 22


The CZ 452 actions are manufactured from steel billets not tubing or pipe, the barrels are hammer forged for accuracy and long life. The action has a dual opposing locking lugs and a 3/8s Dovetail for scope rings. The trigger is adjustable for weight, and the safety is located above the rear of the bolt and provides a positive firing pin block. These have 10 round magazines fitted and five round magazines are an optional extra on this line of rimfire rifles.These Rimfire rifles produced by Ceska Zbrojovka Uhersky Brod are among the most sought-after firearms in the world.
The CZ 452 features attractive wood stocks without checkering, hammer forged barrel with tangent iron sights and simple adjustable trigger.

The Famous BRNO 22.


Sabatti S.P.A. One of Italy’s oldest manufactures , used to be partners with Tangfoglio, made in the Gardone Valley Brescia, they have Beretta and Franchi for neighbours. This part of the world has been famous for firearm manufacture for five hundred years.


The Sabattis come with open sights, and sling swivels (not shown), they are drilled and tapped to suit Weaver bases and rings (not included). They have a solid action with front double locking lugs and have a drop down floor plate magazine similar to Remington BDl and Parker-Hale Delux. For the quality of the wood and finish on the steel work they are a steal at.

$995 plus freight.


Tasco 4 x 32


Thirty years ago we would have paid a $1000. for the same quality of vision and precision, a guaranteed leading optical manufacturer who warranties their products all over the World. They have a light gathering clarity that would have made those old dark Pecar’s appear like looking through a knot hole in fathers wooden leg. What’s more they are Waterproof. In 1970 during a storm in the Victorian mountains I can remember emptying my Pecar like a jug. It had a steel tube but it leaked like a sive.I was so disappointed I hunted Samba for years with open sites as I wanted reliability. I took the low priced option then and will always follow that example, at this price I could afford to buy a spare one.

4 x 32 Silver Antler Rifle Scope $50.

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This book originally printed by the War Office, was intended for use by officers under instruction at the British School of Musketry at Hythe. It is a complete examination of everything needed to be known about smallarms, ammunition and ballistics. It looks at rifles, swords, lances and bayonets, as well as revolvers, grenades and machine guns. There is a section dealing with small arms ammunition (including pre-.303inch ammunition) which is very comprehensive. The book also looks at the ballistics of this ammunition. The book is amply illustrated with photographs, line drawings and tables, and forms a complete record of the weapons and ammunition that were in service between the two World Wars. It was the Text Book Bible referred to by all the 20th Century Gun writers such as Hatcher, Ackley, and Askins. 430 A4 pages.

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Remington Universal Cleaning Kit, All Calibres.


Remington Universal Cleaning Kit, All Calibres. Only solvent, and oil is not dispatched with the kits as postal regulations prohibit. They can be purchused seperatly but cannot be posted.


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The Range Officer Handbook

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As already purchased by members of all Shooting Organisations.Some have even bought two copies one for home and one to take to the club. See Book Reviews by Nick Harvey in Sporting Shooters and Guns Australia in our new Gun Book Category.

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The Range Officers Handbook is an encyclopedia or omnibus of firearms and ammunition and the use of them, it has:-
•  90   pages of Information for Range Officers,
•  239 pages on Coaching to Win,
•  110 pages on Air Rifle History &Training,
•  33   pages on hitting Clay Targets,
•  34   pages on Reloading Ammunition,
•    6   page of Contents,
•  18   pages of Index,
•  38   pages of Old into New, ( Chronological History of Firearms)
•  23   pages of Glossary of Terminology on Firearms and Optics
•  Over 1000 drawings and photographs.
•  Over 530 pages in a A4 stitched colour hardback.,
Some, hopefully will read it cover to cover, others will pick a heading out of the Contents pages and read a chapter or two, but no matter how much you know about shooting, reference material is always needed, as even people who rate as genius cannot retain everything. The real ability is being able to find out quickly and easily. You can check that you have the correct terminology, in the Glossary, check the Index and go straight to the right page. This book can be used as an information tool for a lifetime of shooting.

$75 for a Certified Numbered Book Signed by the author (state who you would like it dedicated to) plus $10 postage Australia wide.

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Bad weather, rough handling. Heavy, repeated recoil. It’s all part of hunting, so your Leupold Rifleman is built to take it. You also get a bright, clear sight picture for precise targeting each and every time, even in low light conditions. Mount a Rifleman on your favourite rifle and hunt with confidence.

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• Ample eye relief protects your eye from heavy recoil.
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• Elevation and windage adjustment dials marked in ½ MOA increments.
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Lee  Breech Lock Challenger Reloading Kit

Includes Sold Cast ‘O’ Frame Press, Scales, Powder Measure, Case Trimmers, Case Lube, Auto Primer and Powder Funnel.
The Breech Lock Challenger Kit, A Reloading Kit Gift at $199.


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These Japanese manufactured rifle scopes made for the big companies in the USA are improving there quality, constantly closing the gaps between them and their Eupropen competitiors. The only thing that seperates most top end scopes these days is the price.

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More on Gas Ports
It Is best to spend a bit on Shooting glasses and make them comfortable and handy to use as them, as  your more likely to have them on your face when something goes wrong. More than likely the accident will occur when you are most unlikely to expect it. The more interested in firearms you become the more shooting that you will do and this logically increases the chances that one day it will happen. It may not be your new project that you are testing, more than likely, you will be at the range and someone else will seek your advice and ask you to try his firearm or reloads, the next thing you know there will be a ringing in your ears and it may be a chorus of angels. So get in a habit of using shooting glasses all the time It is not only that hot gas may flash to the rear through poorly designed mechanisms and from defective cartridges, but mixed with this gas are usually small metal particles of the primer and case that might penetrate deeply into the eyes and face. Its more fun having them taken out of your chin than the eye operations. Believe me, I have had first hand and eye expericene.
Shooting Galses

The shooter should not be unduly over anxious as when the shooter confines himself to fairly modern and factory ammunition, the chances for an accident from such a cause are so very low but it is what you don’t know and the unexpected that gets you, so don’t worry about what you look like wearing them. In this discussion on designing firearms we are to a large extent concerned with the unknown, some amateur work is superior to some so called professional firearm designer/ manufacture and visa versa. As before that accident happens we have not investigated. So a word to the wise is sufficient in all cases do not neglect an efficient gas port in any new design, and always wear shooting glasses in all shooting activities. After a while you will not know you have them on and if you chose a pair with good quality you will see with more definition. Its a good thing to make into a habit.

Control of Cartridges in the Magazine.
This is a purely mechanical problem. A repeating or magazine breech action must handle its cartridges with perfection from magazine into chamber, and extract and eject the fired case whether it be operated fast or slow, in any position, muzzle up or down or upside down, in cold as well as warm temperature. A military arm must do this in the presence of a certain amount of sand or dirt, when the weapon is very hot from repeated firing, and with cartridges that are slightly oversize or slightly dented.
Furthermore it must be possible to surely and quickly load cartridges or a clip into the magazine. In tests, all this must be performed without malfunctions, or with a very small percentage of malfunctions for a large number of rounds, usually for what is calculated to be the life of the barrel.
It is conceded that all breech action must be fully operated for each shot. Almost all repeating mechanisms will jam if the action is only partly opened or operated and then closed.

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Some often speak of the reliability of our old single shot, falling block actions such as the Martini, Sharps, Ballard, and Winchester.  Really they are much less reliable than our more recent designed repeating actions when it comes to handling cartridges. In a falling block, if the cartridge is slightly dirty, or corroded, or oversize it must be forced to almost a complete seating in the chamber by finger pressure which is a very weak method that often fails. If this fails then the shooter has the added problem of trying to extract the cartridge. The extractor is weak and it withdraws the fired case only about 1/8 inch and does not properly eject it, and finger nails often fail to complete the extraction. If a telescope sight is used on such a rifle it is difficult to get the fingers under the scope tube for effective loading and extraction. It often becomes almost impossible to load or extract cases when the hands are numb with cold or when gloves are worn. Automatic ejectors are effective on tip-up break open double and single shotgun actions only because the fired plastic case is very light and easy to extract.

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Evelyn 'Evo' Owen, 1941 Patents for revolving magazine .22 Lr and .38 S & W were built.

Magazines are of five general types, the tubular magazine either under the barrel or in the butt-stock, the box magazine with cartridges in single column, the double column box magazine, the revolving box magazine, and finally the box magazine in which the cartridges are contained in a clip. With tubular magazines cartridges must be fed one at a time into the magazine which is a slow process, although sometimes they can be poured in from a loading tube. Box magazines of military rifles are usually arranged for clip loading, and the magazine can be filled in about the same time that it takes to insert a single cartridge into the tubular magazine.
For small .22 calibre rim fire cartridges the tubular magazine or rotary magazine has proved to be much more reliable in its functioning than the box magazine. The most reliable magazine for a .22 Long Rifle Rimfire was designed and manufactured by Evelyn ‘Evo’ Owen, of Owen Gun fame, as its revolving magazine was capable of reliable supplying 50 cartridges at a rate of 1500 round per minute.

In all .22 rimfire rifles jams do occur with box magazines more frequently than in centre fire cartridges mainly due to the rim, as it is difficult to accurately position the top cartridge in the magazine so that the bolt will push and slide it smoothly out of the magazine into the chamber, this is made worse with the .22 magnum as any mis controlled angle from the rim is magnified by the length of the case as the nose has to align with the chamber. The small cartridge with its lead bullet rather loosely inserted in the case is liable to get out of alignment during the movement and jam. Twenty-two calibre box magazines are usually made detachable from the receiver so that they can be more readily filled with cartridges. This type is almost imperative in a small bore magazine rifle designed for fine accuracy as the tubular magazine in any rifle interferes with that uniform jump or vibration (barrel harmonic’s) so necessary for super accuracy. Five or more cartridges in a clip magazine can be inserted into the receiver box with one motion.


For larger cartridges, breech actions using single column box magazines are simpler in construction, and they and the revolving box magazine are the most efficient and freest from liability to jam when rimmed cartridges are used. The double column box magazine as seen in Mauser type rifles is at its best with rimless cartridges, and it is difficult to make rimmed cases function perfectly in it. The only famous exception is the Lee Enfield as the Mosin -Nagant is a single feed system which is a good system but not as good s the Enfield and Mauser systems. All magazines even for rimless cartridges, have to be made to very close tolrances, but when so made it is very efficient, and it has the advantage that for all but the very largest cartridges it can be made to hold five rounds without projecting below the normal bottom line of the forearm. The revolving box magazine as seen on the Savage Model 1899 and Mannlicher-Schoenauer actions is a very attractive and efficient type, and deserves more popularity than it has attained, although in a military arm it is rather difficult to keep it free from dirt, and it is a rather expensive design to produce. The box magazine into which the cartridges are fed in a clip, in which clip they remain until the last cartridge is fired, when the clip is automatically ejected,  had a rejuvenation by its adoption in the Garand rifle, and we think that this system will never be seen again in modern firearms but real ideas are rare and in the firearm world we find there is nothing new under the sun and ideas are like fashions and return from obscurity to solve problems that we have not created as yet
More on magazine design in Edition 31..

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Preparation of Cartridge Case
In the general opinion of most reloaders, who don’t want a divorce for using the dishwasher or the washing machine, they believe that by far the most practical and efficient method of cleaning cases is to tumble them. Ground nut hulls, hardwood sawdust, and a number of other commercial tumbling and polishing mediums will do a good job of cleaning cases. Cut steel shot may also be used in conjunction with water or a soap solution, but this makes for a complicated process insofar as the average handloader is concerned and also requires a water-tight tumbling rig. That’s something few of us care to spend the money for. Most shooters find  good results with the ground nut hulls mentioned earlier. They do not clean the case quite as rapidly as harsher abrasives, but they do not produce any measurable dimensional change, and the final finish is even brighter than new. The most practical way of tumbling seems to me to be loading the tumbler and switching it on before hitting the sack at night time, and then switching it off to take out the cases the next morning. Overnight tumbling won’t harm the cases, and produces a’ beautiful finish.

Be very careful if contemplating cleaning cases with corrosive solutions such as acids I have been shown brass cases that have turned into a composition resembling cardboard after soaking and cleaning. 
Cases fired in automatic and semi-automatic weapons —especially military types often have severe neck dents caused by the case striking the receiver as it is ejected. Such cases often will not enter a resizing die, yet can be salvaged if otherwise in good condition. Simply tap a tapered punch into the mouth to round it out. If the neck doesn’t split as a result of that or of subsequent resizing, it may be used. In severe instances, annealing will stave off quick failure later where the brass was bent.
Auto weapons, especially the gas-operated types, often deform case rims. The M1 Garand rifle and the Belgian FN FAL are noted for this. A segment of the rim is bent rearward by the extractor and prevents the case from entering a shell holder. Such cases can be dropped over a solidly-supported rod, then the rim segment tapped back into position with a light hammer.
This damage, incidentally, is caused by excessive extraction power combined (usually) with a dirty chamber. Extraction load becomes more than the rim can stand, so it bends. Rotating-bolt designs, with their superior initial extraction, damage cases less in this respect then the inline bolt.
Occasionally fired cases will be found bearing distinct longitudinal, dark, powder fouling stripes, sometimes with the brass expanded as into grooves. These marks are produced by fluted (grooved) chambers found in H & K semi -auto rifles, Tokarev, CETME, and G-3 assault rifles. The flutes allow gas to flow between case and chamber walls to ease extraction. If cases are just a wee bit softer than ideal, they will clearly show brass bulged into the chamber flutes. It has been frequently said that such cases are not suitable for reloading. I’ve found that when properly cleaned and lubricated they resize easily and will withstand several reloadings. Such cases aren’t likely to be encountered except in 7.62 x 54R Russian and 7.62mm NATO calibers.

One other form of fluted chamber does ruin cases so they can’t be reloaded. The HK-4 .380 ACP pistol chamber contains three deep, rectangular grooves. Cases bulge badly into these grooves and often split in the process. Don’t bother trying to salvage such cases. In other calibers the HK-4 uses a smooth chamber and does not harm the cases.
In the final analysis, your handloads are functionally only as good and as safe as the cases in which they are assembled. At best a bad case can cause an inaccurate shot or a minor gun malfunction; at worst it can cause serious injury. With that in mind, it becomes obvious that cases must be carefully inspected and prepared for resizing. Remember again the electric light magnifier for cartridge case inspection.

Thoughts for the week


Owen Guns sunk by Japanese Submarine, off coast of Brisbane in 1943 in new book by Ron Owen, on sale 2010.

You may wonder why this edition is a little early and the reason, is that I will be travelling to Wollongong NSW to gather further research for my next book on ‘The Owen Gun’ (final title not decided as yet). I hope to have it on sale in mid next year, please see draft articles from the book on www.owenguns.com and give me any feed back as these are only rough drafts and do not show how the book will finally be set out.
If you have any enquiries about your shooting requirement please phone 07 54 824099 or 07 54 825070 or fax 0754 824718 in the normal way, I will catch up with answering emails by the end of next week. Thank you all for your emails and phone calls with best wishes for the court case I am embroiled in.  The matter has been adjourned until March next year but a lot of work has to be put in before then. The enemies of freedom wear the same faces that oppose us on all fronts, they have the same agenda to silence all opposition to their own philosophies on firearm laws or the freedom of speech. Two closely related issues.
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Britain: Finally! 12 Years After The Gun Ban, London Is Safer Than Ever
Britain deploys permanently armed police in London

LONDON – Wielding sub machine guns and pistols, British police are making rare armed patrols in crime-blighted London neighborhoods – a change in law enforcement tactics that may prompt calls for the wider use of weapons by the country’s traditionally unarmed Bobbies.
London’s police department said Friday that a new armed unit is carrying out regular sweeps of districts riven by gun battles between rival drug gangs.
Unlike typical police procedure, the team of about 20 officers actively seeks out criminals carrying or storing guns – rather than waiting to respond to emergency calls about incidents involving weapons.
Chief Inspector Neil Sharman said the unit began work in June to tackle pockets of rising gun crime, and will double in size from November amid concerns over the increasing use of weapons in Britain’s capital.
“In the past the police were authority figures dealing primarily with people who respected the police. However,  as crime increases in the U.K. the traditional icon of the Bobby on the beat is becoming incapable of dealing with terrorists and violent crime,” said Bob Ayers, a London-based former U.S. intelligence officer.
In the 12 months to September, London saw a 17 percent rise in gun offences, up from 1,484 to 1,737. According to government figures for England and Wales, there are about 50 to 60 shooting deaths in the country each year.
92 percent of all gang rapists in London are non-white. Fifty percent of all the victims are white. In total, there were 93 gang rapes last year compared with 36 in 2003/04.


They still don't get the message that banning never works.

It must be a mistake, this is all wrong! The leftist British government banned guns in 1997 and promised the measure will drastically reduce violent crime. That was 12 years ago. All murders, shootings and violence was supposed to disappear since Her Majesty’s subjects were forced to surrender their guns. The entire country should have been a crime-free paradise by now.  The residents were supposed to be under the protection of the police as they would never have to protect or defend themselves to save a life.
What do you mean by that “When guns are outlawed, Only outlaws will have guns”? You sure know that’s just a slogan based on a lie made up by the NRA types? That is wrong the Police have them as well. Not much comfort for the disarmed as the Police only defend themselves and send the body bags away.

Many of you will have read of the decision by Peter Garrett who has just made a devilish good decision not to allow Anna Bligh to build the Traviston Dam. On the down side the people of Brisbane may have to buy water tanks, but at least they will control what goes into them and rain water is still free. Our new Captain Bligh would only make the Brisbane residents pay dearly for their rations. Building a 50 metre earth wall over an earthquake fault to keep in maximum of 5 metres of water was insane. Not that insanity has ever left the arsenals of the political parties, just look at firearm legislation. Thank goodness, this time for the turtles and lung fish, as there habitat is more important than the residents of the Mary Valley as people obviously do not count at all, with our political masters.

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